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Lisbon Families Challenging Meijer Construction

Lisbon families are thinking about challenging the Sussex Meijer construction in court because it violates a border agreement between the two municipalities.

Three Lisbon families might challenge the construction of 200,000-square-foot Meijer because their lawyer says it violates a border agreement between the Village of Sussex and the Town of Lisbon, reported the Sussex Sun.

Town of Lisbon officials told the Sussex Sun that they were staying out of the controversy because it would be a waste of time. The Lisbon Town attorney told officials that they could delay the construction but at the end of the day it was going to get approved. 

Joseph Cincotta, attorney for the Lisbon families, said that he and his clients have not looked at options for a possible court fight.

Meijer , 24-hour, mixed grocery store and retail center on the site. The plans also include construction of a gas station. Sussex amended its land use plan to accommodate the development.

According to Cincotta, Lisbon had not prepared a land use plan for the land where the Meijer site is proposed. He also said the plan should have been reviewed by a joint committee of town and village officials, reported the Sussex Sun. Additionally, he said the intent of the agreement was to keep big box stores out of the border lines. 

The Sussex Planning Commission will vote on the plan in February. 

SaB January 24, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Let's just drop the Meijer's idea all together. If anything; bring in a Woodman's; they are Wisconsin based and I've heard nothing but good comments about them. At the same time; I'd like to keep the rural look around HY-K and 164 (and not add the extra traffic snarls). I heard that Shopko is moving out (poor business); let's keep the village board happy and build a Woodman's there. Drop Meijer and save HY-K @ 164 "rurality".
Jill Lane January 24, 2013 at 06:55 PM
So technically, is Meijer's setting up shop in Sussex or Lisbon?
Resident January 24, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Technically, the land is now in the Town of Lisbon. Once developed, it will be in the Village of Sussex.
DJ January 25, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Since the land belongs to Lisbon, how does Sussex have control of the land? Isn't this a form of infringement? So if Sussex builds on the land, they can claim it? What am I missing here? I personally oppose the project, but hey, just because I've lived here for 20 years raised my children here, and enjoy the peacefulness of our small community, pay my taxes, why would my opinion matter? As long as "the board" gets what they want. Where there's a will, there's a way. Cheat, steal, beg or borrow their going to get what they want.
WCguy January 25, 2013 at 02:26 PM
The way I see it is, if there is no building in Sussex there will be no increase in tax base. If we don't do something to increase the tax base then there is only two options, raise taxes to keep the services we have come accustomed to, or start cutting the services. Historically the first ones on the chopping block are fire and EMS, then police, and when I call 911 I want someone at my door within 7 min not 15 min. With the new law, a community can only raise taxes based on the percent of new development. No new development equals 0% tax increase which means we start cutting services, we can also avoid a tax increase by gaining tax base by building. Since the housing development in Sussex has slowed to a crawl, the board needs to do something to get more tax base. Personally I want to keep services we have, and I don't want my taxes to go up, so I say build.
Resident January 25, 2013 at 07:05 PM
DJ -- This land is now in Lisbon but the boundary agreement between Lisbon and Sussex designates this land to be annexed to Sussex when developed -- read the boundary agreement posted to Sussex's website. WCguy -- you can have development and increase the tax base while maintaining the small village atmosphere desired by the residents. And maybe the village should start becoming more frugal. Take a look at the size of the government structure compared to other villages of its size.
Nancy K January 25, 2013 at 07:12 PM
I wouldn't be half as opposed to building on that site if it were a Woodman's instead of a Meijer's. Employee owned. Wisconsin based. Win-win situation.
WCguy January 25, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Resident- I agree with you 100%, if there were more developers willing to build in Sussex, but they are few and far between, or they go bankrupt half way through. The pheasant farm south of Shopko was to be condos and and a YMCA at least 4-5 years ago. The farm north of Shopko and Kohls was to be a subdivision years ago,but the developer ran out of money and foreclosed on the site. The cannery has been sitting for nearly 20 years, was bought by a developer made into an eyesore half grass half pavement junk pile, and the developer again foreclosed on the site. Now years after having that corner look like crap, a new developer has stepped into finish the job, and you still have complaints of the apartment buildings. So no more large stores, no more industrial, no more apartment buildings and people complain that all the farms are turning into subdivisions. So what else can go into the village that people wont complain about? At some point you just have to make a decision and, right or wrong, do what you think is going to be best for the village. At least the board did that and not just sit on their hand like some communities and wait for the economy to comeback. And about being frugal like I said we would have to give up services we, or at least I, like; 24 hour police coverage, cuts to Fire and EMS. Like I said those are always the first to go. If you have some suggestions please bring them to the board and maybe we can make some progress in a different direction
Lois Liebau-Templin January 27, 2013 at 06:04 PM
We do not want the Meijer's store out here! It not only takes away from the rural feel of this area, but it will present a lot of new problems that we do not need. Why is it that you state any budget cuts will start with the fire department, police department, and EMS service? As far as we are concerned, that is a tactic to make people side with you. There are other places that the cuts can be made. We have read about spending on parks, which you have plenty of, and other areas where the spending is for cosmetic reasons, not necessity. Cut those budgets first! Sussex is, also, trying to take away as much area of the Town of Lisbon as it can. Especially, when we won the debate on merging with Sussex. Listen to the people!!! Who pays the most taxes anyway, when you consider the Sussex board, and the residents. The residents pay the most taxes, and whatever the board gets for their time. Government is suppose to be by the people, FOR THE PEOPLE!!!
WCguy January 29, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Lois liebau-Templin In my first comment I said that historically municipalities start with police and fire when they start talking about making cuts. My second comment was referring to my first comment, when I said, "always are the first to go," it was not the best chose of words, sorry I didn't try to be misleading in my second comment. When you look at budgets the largest percent is taken up by public safety and protection, so naturally they want to cut back on the largest burden to their budget. Village of Pewaukee is a perfect, and most recent, comparable example. They are in a finical hardship and now they are looking at cutting the City of Pewaukee fire department because they say it costs too much money, and are looking to contract elsewhere to save money. They didn’t make any other cuts before they started this process. Another example is Lisbon, they do not have 24 hour police coverage due to the cost. So they have decided if it will keep taxes down, they are willing to let you as a resident wait for help to come from another community during the hours that are uncovered.Also multipule communities in the area are cutting staffing of their fire departments to save money, but I don’t see any one of them cutting their park department. The idea of cutting the parks and programs that make Sussex a nice place to live is ridiculous. Sussex is a desired community to live in due to the fact that it has nice parks and is well kept.
WCguy January 29, 2013 at 03:33 PM
People who move here do on the expectation to pay higher taxes to have all of the services provided to them. About the taking of land from Lisbon, that land was put into the boarder agreement that as soon as it is developed, it would be annexed to the village. Also Sussex is not able to take land at will due to, again, the boarder agreement. I did not say anything to make people side with me. I am not trying to convince anyone one way or the other, I am just stating my opinions and I don’t really care if anybody sides with me.
Lois Liebau-Templin February 01, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Sir, doesn't it sound rather silly that the idea of cutting park improvements is ridiculous a little sad? Cutting fire, and police, departments budget is less important than the parks budget being cut? We do not think so. Do the parks protect people, or put out fires? Thank about it! People mean more to us than going to a park.
WCguy February 01, 2013 at 09:06 PM
Apparently you misunderstood my last post. I do not want any services cut to my village. I was stating that cutting the parks would not be economically appropriate for the future of the village. I stated that Historically Police and Fire were the first to get cut. I at no time implied that parks are more important than protective services, or the safety of the people of this village. I was trying to explain through my examples that municipal boards don’t know about fire or police operations, they just see a big number and want some of that money. I was trying to explain that, for most boards, it is about the money most of the time. In no way, shape or form do I agree with this policy or practice, but if you look at the history of cuts in most municipalities, public safety is at the top of the list for cuts, due to the amount of money they absorb. I am a Firefighter/Paramedic and have seen firsthand the effect of budget cuts on staffing and response in my department, I am a career Firefighter for another community and I live in Sussex. The examples that I gave, which included your community Lisbon, that most times public safety suffers in the interest of lowering or keeping taxes low. It is easy for an outsider to sit back and say cut this or cut that when they do not live in or use the services that are provided. Since Lisbon wants to apparently cut ties with Sussex, this village needs to do whatever it can to provide for its citizens regardless of Lisbon's objections

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