As the , we all heard the hyper-political language about the environmental harm that would result from any iron ore mine.
It was very difficult for me to sit back and watch.
I was ever hopeful that calmer heads would prevail, considering the $1.5 billion investment and the thousands of resulting jobs that the state could have welcomed while the environment is protected.
Unfortunately, I was wrong.
This issue became just another political piñata with some senators clearly displaying that politics is more important than getting things done for Wisconsin citizens.
I wish it wasn't true, but unfortunately in the end the motivation to not allow a potential success for Governor Walker appears to be what really killed the bill. The debate even degenerated with some suggesting that the state Department of Natural Resources lacked the expertise to site a mine.
I think it is time to set the record straight and to recommend that we need to have a higher dialogue on environmental issues if we expect to move forward as a state. The days of scare tactics should be over.
We can have disagreements and debates. There are legitimate differences in opinion on the environment and lots of other issues. Can't we have these discussions without the fear-mongering?
As for the particulars of the mining bill, the amendments made by the Joint Finance Committee were all positive amendments that provided the DNR even more tools to successfully site a potential iron ore mine. Many of the amendments had fingerprints from the bill proposed by Senators Schultz and Jauch.
The end bill was a result of lots of reasonable compromises. Unfortunately, Senators Schultz, Jauch and other Senate Democrats were not willing to compromise. It was their way or the highway. As we saw, Gogebic took that highway out of the state unfortunately.
Let's face the facts. Mining is one of the most regulated, if not the most regulated, industries in the world. This mining proposal would have had to garner DNR approval, Army Corps of Engineers Approval, EPA approval, US Fish & Wildlife Service approval, and would have had to meet the water quality and quantity standards established downstream on the Bad River Indian Reservation.
With all of these approvals, do we really buy into the "pollution-goes-wild" fear mongering? How can mines be sited in Michigan and Minnesota? Are we incapable of learning from their successes and their shortcomings?
It is also a fact that a mine would change the landscape. This is not in dispute. The bill before the Legislature recognizes this fact. The bill does not change any of the off-site environmental protections.
It does, however, recognize that the ore body is located where it is. As a result, some flexibility is needed to change the landscape to get at the ore deposit. Recognizing this fact, this bill required that the mining company avoid and minimize impacts to wetlands and navigable waters. If such impacts could not be avoided, mitigation at a rate of 1.5 acres to 1 acre was required.
It is important to note that under current mining law, no such mitigation is required. I believe this is an improvement to current mining law — don't you? As you know, such flexibility leads to lots of speculation about what could occur. It is easy to play those kinds of games. However, this is not a game.
In the end, don't we trust the regulating agencies to do their job? On my travels throughout the state, I have found that most of the citizens of the state trust the DNR to do its job.
Why don't Democratic state senators?
Cathy Stepp, a former state senator from Racine County, is the secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
That's pretty good, I give you kudos for that! However, just like Lyle, you're forgetting about the mine having to comply with federal CWA provisions
"And $$, while I love my parents, I am not a momma's boy/girls. I hold down a full time job, (which is why I get up at 5:15am six days a week) belong to a local service board and have never had to self-proclaim myself as a Conservative Most everyone I meet has put that label on me. I consider myself independent with many strong Conservative leanings. " Not married and living with mom and dad, correct? Upstairs bedroom or basement Gotcha! Grow up and come back when you have some experience. The military needs bodies. Maybe Hoffa can use you in one of his/her B movies. Sorry, the world is not friendly to the young.
Wrong again. And I thought you had a problem with quoting prior posts. But what do you expect from a grumpy old Liberal whose job is to bad mouth Governor Walker by posing as a Conservative.
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Also, contra Rep Molenski, her letter does have facts, such as all the permitting agencies for the mine - more than I had heard heretofore. Also, she cites the remediation requirement. Perhaps you really object to governing while Republican. Agree with the the lead comment on this thread. Democratic ideology is anti-private sector jobs. Make government ever bigger and slash the middle class private sector that's the way to organize the state.
These are the dreams of a one-percenter. Meanwhile all the middle class schlubs you tax to build these dreams can't afford to join you on you luxurious tax-payer supported magic carpet.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/07/list-obama-administration-czars/#ixzz1I4Lr7hjI Of course, a grounded person would realize that political appointments are how an executive asserts his or her programs on the standing (non-partisan) bureaucracy in theory. In the real world, we all know that the DNR buraucracy (which has long been considered out of control) was quite bent by Doyle.
http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/proposals/ab426 see the paragraph about mining hearing. ---She is also basically approving the mine with out even seeing the plan. See this is the point that liberals can't really understand because of the one-dimensional nature of their thought processes. T.R. alleges that that she is "basically approving" the mine. The bill that was voted down was not about a particular mine. It was about the legislative framework in which a mine would be approved. Yes, there was a mining company that expressed interest and engaged in communicating to the legislature how businesses regard the status quo (years of deliberation and law suits). But the point was to get the legislature and the DNR and the other agencies to work together to actually come to a conclusion not spend years in deliberation. But hey, Michigan and Minnesota can be business friendly and allow mining in their equally environmentally conscious states. We Wisconsinites just aren't as smart as they are.
Well said. The super bureaucratic combination of US EPA, US Fish and WIldlife, Army Corps of Engineers, and the Indian Tribes isn't enough to discourage a potential mining company. We need a super environmental PhD in environmental astrophysics with a minor in bureaucratic inertia, perhaps like Secretary Stephan Chu to be sure that these organizations NEVER come into alignment so people can have jobs. Like Nancy Pelosi said - foodstamps contribute to economic growth.
Silly talk. The economic benefits would start when surveyors started doing design of the site and support buildings. Advance orders would to to Caterpillar or Bucyrus. Construction crews would arrive to put in new roads to the site. Building materials would be delivered and off loaded by new MHE. Those poor people up north.
Mrs. Stepp, this is a new low for you.
Pyrite oxidizes into iron when exposed to air.
Steve 2:31 pm on Monday, March 12, 2012 Kalen - Do you drive a car, live in a house, use electricity, or own a computer?
red, your comment doesn't make sense to me so I can't respond. Sorry.
http://temecula.patch.com/articles/citizen-reader-shares-mining-sounds A good friend sent this email and said the following, "Do you think this is what happens when a mining operator/Developer seems to be in control of your elected politicians and the appointed officials these same politicians put in positions of authority. Do you think government employees have to follow the instructions of these same politicians in order to keep their government jobs? Do you wonder if someone would be fired if they didn't do what the politicians wanted them to do?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_HypxyudI&feature=relmfu Have you seen the MaryAnn Edwards video featuring the Aberhill Ranch Boys and Girls Club with Castle & Cookes aggregate mining operation in the background it's across the street. Paul Jacobs may be onto something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhckrqXX-L4 Another video of the Alberhill Ranch Boys and Girls Club which puts things in prospective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e12kTmWvn7U&feature=related
Why don't Democratic state senators?" How are those frac mines doing? "the DNR expects 90 percent of companies in a regulated industry to comply with rules on their own." Sellers said. On the 12 visits(out of 70 active mines, wonder if those were the only visits last year to frac mines?) He found noncompliance to 80-90 percent of the sites. Can't imagine why there is so little trust....