The Empty Can Rattles The Most
CLAIM: Obamacare will cost Americans more and it is bad public policy, therefore it needs to be repealed.
The Truth:
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office just released a study showing that if we repealed the Affordable Care Act using the latest Republican-backed bill, H.R. 6079, we would reduce spending by $890 billion but slash revenues by $1 trillion, thus increasing the federal budget deficit by about $109 billion from 2013 to 2022.
A little over a week ago the Republicans unsuccessfully tried to repeal "Obamacare" for the 31st time. By the way, the most popular definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result...
But still, Mitt Romney and the GOP are promising that if he is elected, then they will repeal "Obamacare". Now everyone knows that the current health care system is unsustainable because the costs continue to skyrocket and it leaves too many good people under-insured or uninsured.
So the GOP is promising to totally repeal the law and replace it with . . . NOTHING. Well, actually some of the more level-headed Republicans want to save the most popular provisions of the law and simply repeal the mandate that requires most Americans to purchase health insurance, but the non-compromising, "my way or the fricking highway" Tea Party Ron Johnson types of the GOP are not even allowing that, still clinging to the claim that the Affordable Care Act is "bad public policy".
Allowing your child to stay covered under their parents' plan until they are 26 is good policy. Making it illegal to charge women more for health insurance because they have a vagina is good policy. Making it illegal for an insurance company to drop a person once they become seriously ill is good policy. Making it illegal to deny coverage because of pre-exhisting conditions is good policy.
I agree that hitting people with a fine may not be the best public policy, but the reality is that by writing that into the law it was the only way the insurance companies would promise not to lobby against it because then they would have a larger pool of (healthy) people to insure and not go bankrupt or fire everyone in the process of covering only sick people.
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Barack Obama won the Presidency in 2008 by stating that "Health care was a right, not a privilege," and that "Health care is the economy." He also vowed to change the current health coverage system to make it more affordable and to cover as many people as possible - These are the statements and the promises that got Obama elected (plus the thought of having Sarah Palin serve as President in case McCaine croaked scared the living crap out of people).
So when Obama and the Democrats passed The Affordable Care Act, which is modelled off of Romney Care, he was fulfilling a campaign pledge, something Republicans care little about.
Republicans will tell you that we are wasting our tax money covering people who are too lazy to get jobs with insurance and that illegal aliens will be pouring into doctor's offices to get treated. Any program will have those who find loopholes and take advantage of the system, but this is not about those people - they will always be there. This is about the millions of people like you and I who play by the rules and hold down jobs and pay premiums and end up getting dropped by our insurance companies the minute we get really sick.
The Affordable Care Act is not perfect, but it fixes the terrible laws that previously allowed good people to get rear-ended and blind-sided by their insurance companies the minute the risk became too great.
The Affordable Care Act was passed by Congress, like it or not. The Affordable Care Act was modeled after Romney Care, like it or not. Almost all of the provisions in The Affordable Care Act are popular, when mentioned separately, like it or not.
Now it is time to implement it. But some extreme right-wingers like our very own Scott Walker and Rick Perry of Texas think that they are above the law and do not have to abide by a Federal Law simply because they don't agree with it.
There are plenty of laws that I don't agree with and have hopes that they will be repealed... Why drive 55 when I think the speed limit should by 65 on I94? Why not text and drive if I think I'm a great driver? I'm a great driver, so why should I bother paying for car insurance (required by sate law) in case I get into an accident? -
Because I'm not egotistical - like my Governor. Because these laws aren't about me - they are about everyone else around me. These laws are for the greater good of everyone, but the Republicans, who only think of themselves and their pocketbooks simply don't give a damn and they have falsely scared the daylights out of the public about the Affordable Care Act by slinging false accusations about the impact it will have once implemented.
The Republicans tell us the ACA will bankrupt the nation and cause employers to drop employees like flies. Since we all know that the ACA was modelled after similar legislation in MA by then Governor Romney, let's look at how MA is doing since implementing "Romneycare":
How has "Romneycare" had an effect in MA? In 2006, before the law passed, 86.6 percent of adults in MA had health insurance. In 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, that total has raised to 98 percent. Also, the percentage of unemployed residents in Massachusetts remains at a lowly 6 percent compared to the national rate at 8.2 percent. A 2011 poll by the Boston Globe and the Harvard School of Public Health showed that 63 percent of Massachusetts residents supported the state law, which has a mandate, thanks to Romney.
Massachusetts is not on fire. Businesses have not left the state. They are doing just fine and people are employed at a higher rate than before and are healthier. The sky is not falling over Boston Harbor.
On the flip side is Texas, which has the highest percentage of people uninsured at 26.9% - and Scott Walker wants to get on the Rick Perry bandwagon of not implementing the ACA because he doesn't like it? What are we supposed to do if we get sick and are dropped from our insurer, have a huge bake sale to cover the costs? What if we didn't raise enough funds by selling grandma's cookies? Should we just curl up and die as quickly as possible so we don't accumulate tons of medical debt for our surviving spouse?
If Romney wins the presidency in November and the GOP reclaims the Senate they could repeal the Affordable Care Act, but they would be repealing the most humane law congress has created in the last 40 years - which is modelled after the one and only good thing that Mitt Romney has done that did not directly benefit himself - create a system that allows the average person to receive more affordable, more-comprehensive health insurance. . . and now to be a "true conservative" he has to run away from such a deed?
It's sad, but in order to get the backing of the extremely-right wing Tea Party activists Romney must shy away from the best piece of legislature he ever had a hand in - "Romneycare".
The Republicans had total control of the government for years while George W. was in charge and it was during that time that we saw the cost of health care skyrocket, seniors were forced to pay more for less under Medicare Part D, we gave tax breaks to the rich and started two foreign wars and paid for them by going into debt to China . . .
A vote for Romney is a return to that train wreck and two steps backwards.
Bren
1:46 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
The fringe that has grabbed the reins of the GOP is very good at spending other people's money. It's encouraging to see Republicans finally starting to stand up to the excesses of Grover Norquist, Michelle Bachman, etc. I'm still waiting to hear from Mitt how being a corporate raider provides the necessary background to lead a nation. We all have to live the results of elections.
A national health care plan would be the best option. We'll have to see how the insurance industry tries to duck and weave through the new regulations. Hopefully these companies will conform, but if there is blowback, the larger benefit to our country would be to expose the profiteering and move us in the right direction of national healthcare. Taking people's health out of the hands of a for-profit middleman.
James R Hoffa
2:06 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Bren -
"I'm still waiting to hear from Mitt how being a corporate raider provides the necessary background to lead a nation."
And what exactly in Obama's background proved that he had what it takes to lead a nation? He can't even lead our own Congress to get along with each other for heaven's sakes!
And you're voting for Obama anyway!
"Taking people's health out of the hands of a for-profit middleman."
Ummm... yeah, what you fail to realize is that ANYONE can effectively do this today without the need for any kind of government legislation. Buy a cheap catastrophic care policy, and pay cash direct to your health care provider as you utilize U&C services! That's exactly what Hoffa does, and it works GREAT!!!
No one is forcing people to use insurance to pay for U&C services, are they? So why do we need a government solution to eliminate the "for-profit middleman" exactly?
BTW - Still waiting for you to demonstrate how Hoffa is a 'skimmer' and why you refuse to provide the citations or an admission as to your false assertions about Ryan/Walker.
Bren
11:00 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Mr. Hoffa, are you cut-and-pasting your posts now too, as well as skimming?
Knowledge of law provides an excellent background for a modern president. Obama was reading the right playbooks when dealing with the economy--New Deal, etc. Romney's action plan appears to be adapting failed GW Bush policies and all available Bush advisors. Those policies didn't work. That's not a good direction for Romney to follow.
J. B. Schmidt
11:17 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Bren
Maybe Obama only read the cliff notes, because it appears our nation never really recovered. Obama's plan has done nothing more then make 8+% unemployment and 1% growth the new normal. In essence, what he read was how to destroy success and replace it with mediocrity. That is why FDR proposed a second New Deal just before he died, because his first attempt at keynesianism failed and we had stagnant unemployment and growth. He knew the New Deal failed and after the production of WWII stopped the country was going to nose dive economically. Thankfully the congress shot it down and allowed capitalism to carry us out of the great depression by lowering income and corporate tax rates.
What is odd is that history appears to be repeating itself and Romney want to save us by lowering tax rates. If it keynesianism failed before, why would it succeed today? If you know, could you please show me that playbook.
James R Hoffa
11:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Bren -
In Obama's self authored book, he admits to abusing hard illegal narcotics and being personally enamored with socialist/communist doctrines and teachings.
If that's your definition of having "the necessary background to lead a nation" and "reading the right playbooks," then I'm more afraid for the future of this nation than I was a mere moment ago!
Romney's plans are far different than Bush's actions. Bush deficit spent. Romney wants to balance the budget and force the federal government to live within its means. That's a HUGE difference right there, but you fail to acknowledge such, instead preferring to perpetuate the party line propaganda, rhetoric, and talking points that you absorb from nightly viewings of MS-NBC.
While you claim to do your own research, your inability of late to cite to any primary sources that would support many of your recent assertions has Hoffa seriously questioning the sincerity of such claim.
Your credibility on matters of objective fact has been flushed down the proverbial toilet. In the future, might I suggest only offering your stance on matters of purely subjective opinion?
Cheers ;-)
James R Hoffa
2:46 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Jason -
The CBO report makes A LOT of presumptions to get to the conclusion it did, doesn't it? It also doesn't take into account the budgetary changes that the GOP would presumably make if they were successful in repealing Obamacare, does it?
Also, if Obamacare is going to raise $109 billion more in revenue that it will spend in the first year, then why does it gut the revenue-segregated program of Medicare by $500B?
Let's think a little, shall we?
"Barack Obama won the Presidency in 2008 by stating that... "
He also promised that he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class, remember? Politifact has confirmed that Obamacare represents one of the largest middle class tax increases in the history of our nation. And in the middle of a stagnant / recessionary economy no less!
So, is it somehow OK to break one promise just as long as you come through on the other? And in regards to Obamacare, he really didn't come through on the promise he actually made, did he? Even you recognize that the ACA represents a compromise, but not with the opposing political party, but rather the lobbyists!
James R Hoffa
2:46 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
But what about hope and change? I thought Obama didn't give a damn about the lobbyists and was going to lock them out of the White House. In reality, not so much. I also remember Obama promising that the negotiations on the bill would be public and viewable on C-Span 3. Hoffa tuned in, but saw nothing but closed doors and smokey rooms and Nancy Pelosi telling us that we could find out what's in the bill only after Congress had already passed the bill!
Most legislators admit to not having read the bill before voting on it for goodness sakes, trusting in the prepared summaries that lacked a good deal of specificity and detail!
But you're OK with all of this because hell, he's Obama, right?!?!
"The Affordable Care Act was passed by Congress, like it or not."
And like it or not, Congress can repeal the Affordable Care Act! All we have to do is vote in enough of the right people and it's as good as a done deal!
"But some extreme right-wingers like our very own Scott Walker and Rick Perry of Texas think that they are above the law and do not have to abide by a Federal Law simply because they don't agree with it."
Ummm... yeah, you must not have heard that the Supreme Court ruled that it was Obama that was trying to violate the law by forcing the states into mandatory compliance, not the other way around.
James R Hoffa
2:46 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
"The Republicans tell us the ACA will bankrupt the nation and cause employers to drop employees like flies."
Initial surveys of large businesses show that 1 in every 10 employee will lose their employer provided coverage, while nearly every small business will opt to pay the fine. As implementation and enforcement gets nearer, those numbers are expected to go up, up, up!
That's called a dose of reality!
"What are we supposed to do if we get sick and are dropped from our insurer...."
Catastrophic care policies are more affordable than you realize. Prior to passaged of Obamacare, Hoffa was paying about $35/month, however, received notice shortly after that the future premium payments would be increasing as a direct result of Obamacare. Today, Hoffa is paying about $78/month for the same coverage - so how exactly is Obamacare making my health care more affordable if my premium rate has already doubled since the bill passed, with no end to the increases in sight? Is this some kind of BS liberal logic/math?
Finally, Hoffa doesn't care what Romney did while he was governor of MA, so I don't understand why you're so hung up on it. He promised what he would do if elected President, and the present and future is what this race is about - not the past.
James R Hoffa
2:47 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
But seeing as how you like to examine Romney's past, I must ask why you aren't concerned about Obama's past drug abuse - something that we as a nation didn't learn about until only AFTER he took office. Not only is this hypocritical, but it was highly deceptive and unethical of Obama to withhold such crucial facts of character from the American people prior to the 2008 election!
But praise away at the alter of Obama. I know that the hard objective facts won't change your mind - they never do!
Pantywaist Patzfahl
2:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Melinda Beeuwkes Buntin, the architect of Obongocare, is
woman who helped create the statistical models used to score Obongocare has strong ties to the White House as well as the president’s signature legislation.
Buntin, now the deputy assistant director of the CBO’s Health Services Department, came to the post in the middle of 2011.
The lies from this government continue, always unabated..
Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
James R Hoffa
5:05 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
100% correct! The CBO cannot be trusted to be non-partisan when so many in its higher ranks are Obama cronies. The CBO now constitutes little more than an extension of the Obama White House.
It kinda makes one wonder if the CBO scored Ryan's budget properly. In all actuality, I bet that the Ryan budget performs better than the CBO estimated with its score!
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/06/cbo-hires-obamacare-advocate-to-provide-objective-health-care-budget-numbers/1/
Greg
3:56 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
If a can is empty what would make it rattle?
CowDung
4:00 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Apparently you've never had an empty can rolling around in your vehicle as you drive. They tend to rattle in an oversize cup holder as well...
Greg
4:31 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Is it really empty?
CowDung
4:39 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Yes (unless of course that is one of those 'what is the sound of one hand clapping' type of questions...
The rattling sound is made by the walls of the can hitting against various hard surfaces. The lightness of the empty can will also cause it to vibrate (typically in a cupholder) more than it otherwise would, again producing a rattling sound...
Greg
4:57 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
But wouldn't a can with say a rock or marble in it rattle more?
CowDung
5:03 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Perhaps I need to put a marble in a can and drive around a bit to find out. I can see where the weight of the object would dampen the rattling that the can would have when empty, but could result in a net increase of rattling as the object itself would rattle against the can...
I think you're just overthinking it a bit. The idea was that a can full of soda (or whatever it was meant to be filled with) doesn't rattle as much as it does when it is empty...
Greg
9:16 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
So you are saying the title should read "The Full Can Rattles The Least".
Jason Patzfahl
6:46 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
"The empty can rattles the most" is a perfect fit for the Republicans in this usage because like empty cans, they really have nothing of substance inside, but yet they sure are loud when agitated...
CowDung
8:27 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Take a look in the mirror, Jason...
Greg
1:51 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Thanks Jason. I think I am getting the concept. Since the Wisconsin Democrats/teachers/unions were the loudest political movement, in this country in the last 30 years, they would be the most empty can and their position would have the least substance. Also the Republicans are agitated about the ACA, but to a much lesser degree than the Democrats were to Act 10. I don't think there are any occupations, protest rallies, drum banging or chanting "shame". The Republican agitation is nearly silent compared to that. So if the degree of rattle correlates to the amount of substance, the Republicans must be right on the mark. I've got it now.
J. B. Schmidt
4:06 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Health care has had ever increasing problems the more the government has gotten involved.
"The CBO gave no updated estimate for deficit reductions from the law, approved by Congress and signed by Obama in 2010"http://www.philly.com/philly/health/Budget_office_Obamas_health_law_reduces_deficit.html?cmpid=138896554#ixzz21lT8YuEv
This report has nothing to do with the law as it would have to contradict numerous other CBO reports showing deficits, especially since the ruling by the supreme court. Rather this is a partisan action authorized by the administration to make the Republican look like they are pushing granny off a cliff. Amazing, just in time for the elections.
Keith Schmitz
4:18 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
"Health care has had ever increasing problems the more the government has gotten involved."
Based on what?
Hey mister Christian? Who do you want to die when the servants of the affluent revoke the ACA?
There was a guy shot in the eye at the Batman movie. There's your rad right twofer. Guy gets shot because we have to allow any one to buy anything when it comes to weapons. Them it turns out the bills will run up into the millions, and the guy is only saved because the hospital will carry the cost. Other wise, let 'em go broke or die.
Chromie, kindly can your Christian pieties. It's bogus.
J. B. Schmidt
4:33 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Keith Schmitz
Thanks for more incoherent ramblings. You need more focus.
The more government gets involved with regulations that were are told will solve the problem, the problem only gets worse. It has only come true in: college costs, post office, public education, social security, welfare and yes health care. If you wish to continue to wear you blinders, go for it. I will follow the affluent as they appear to be successful. Instead, you would rather have us follow, what? the poor? Maybe in your head, living in a fridge box under an overpass is the height of success.
Greg
4:34 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Would he have died pre-ACA?
Mary Beth
4:50 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Paul Ryan stated yesterday that the CBO can only work with what is given them. The reason for so called "reduced deficit" in this week's CBO report is because they are factoring that as a result of the SC decision, there will be less people who will go on Obamacare and therefore the costs will be reduced. That's all. Overall, it will cost $2.6 trillion over 10 years.
No one, I repeat no one, wants to address that over 7000 baby boomers are reaching 65 everyday for the next 19 years and what that will do to Medicare.
Keith Schmitz
8:06 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Sorry boys. I don't write for people with IQs of 90.
Yeah Chromie. You follow the affluent because you love seeing camels flying through the eye of the needle.
J. B. Schmidt
11:04 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Keith Schmitz
"Sorry boys. I don't write for people with IQs of 90." We can tell, you have yet to advance to that level. But thanks for playing.
Alfred
9:07 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Comb over Keif Schmitz calling someone else 'chromie'? Whats wrong Keif? Not able to rip off any little old ladies in Shorewood this week?
Ima Hippee
6:32 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Keith - do you type with one eye closed to focus on the key board?
So, you are blaming the shooting in the CC law Colorado? And somehow segue into ACA? As J.B. states...more of your incoherent and shallow ramblings.
C. Sanders
9:08 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Cocktails must be flowing tonight, the incoherent ramblings are getting deep. May need to call Pat's to come in a drain the black tank.
J H RDH
10:31 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Once again -a great article! Thanks Jason!
J H RDH
10:33 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Thanks Jason!!!!!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! Love all of those negative responses. You must be getting to them!
Rees Roberts
11:34 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Sigh
Different subject same responses from the same people. Yawn. Broken record. No wonder more people don't get involved here. It's just the same arguments. No trying to come together as a community. Not a shred of compromise is possible. It's just bash people. And if this sounds like bashing it's because for over 6 months this observation has a terribly high degree of veracity to it. If I could only find any real communication other than disagreement or putting people down I would be elated.
Nite nite
Greg
1:11 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Nice job of forwarding the conversation, about the topic. I like someone that leads by example.
SkinnyDude
12:06 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
The CBO only scores with the assumptions given it by legislators . In this case......Its laughable as I would bet every worldly possession I have that Obama care will be at a deficit when the REALITY sets in rather than proposed Budget gimmicks. If you recall to lower the initial costs of Obama care congress scored the bill with 10 years of tax with 6 years of spending. Now why would you do that ? Easy ......the costs will explode if you score this bill with Reality . Do you know the administration asks the CBO to score bills assuming significant growth in the economy . So the CBO scores it assuming that ....but the growth isnt happening ......hence the revenue is less. The deficit is greater etc......This article is left wing nonsense as once again Liberals would rather shade the truth than face reality.
Jason Patzfahl
6:43 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
If the supposedly liberal-leaning CBO would have come out with a study showing that the Affordable Care Act WILL cost tax payers more money then the Republicans would be all over it, touting it as "proof" that "Obamacare" will bankrupt us - Paul Ryan uses the findings of the CBO (when it benefits his agenda).
How come nobody is talking about the fact that "Romneycare" is working very well in MA and since it has been implemented its popularity has soared? It really is a shame that Romney has to promise to repeal a law that was modeled off of his own legislation just to please the Tea Party knuckleheads...
CowDung
8:20 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Perhaps nobody is talking about it because it really isn't true. Romneycare is costing way more than was expected. Can we afford the same with Obamacare?
James R Hoffa
8:49 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Jason -
Cite your source that the implementation of Romneycare has made health care more affordable for the people of the state of Mass. In fact, every source I come across indicates that healthcare costs in the state of MA have gone up, and exponentially so, every since the implementation of Romneycare.
Thus, if we can expect similar results from Obamacare, as you appear to be inferring/suggesting, one must ask if the name given to the legislation, The Affordable Care Act, is really a rather deceitful oxymoron.
oak creek resident
9:47 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Jason Obamacare raises a TRILLION in taxes (what you call "revenue").
I suggest you get an education or at least read up a bit on economics before you make any more posts and make a bigger arse of yourself.
Wearing glasses that women wore in the early 2000's does not make you educated, Jason.
Mike in OC
7:55 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
why is it ok for insurance companies to charge more to men for auto insurance (because of risk).... but not ok for insurance companies to charge more to women for health insurance (because of risk)?
Robert
8:42 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Did anyone look past the part of the constitution where is says "promote the general welfare" unlike the part where it says "PROVIDE for the common defense". The Federal govt has no legal standing to be providing health care for its citizens. It is the states right and the individual , debate over.
Kelly
9:38 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
"What are we supposed to do if we get sick and are dropped from our insurer, have a huge bake sale to cover the costs?"
Do you realize that Wisconsin already has a high risk insurance pool (HIRSP) for people denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions?
Steve ®
9:42 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
You guys all need to chill out. We have obamacare now! Hell yeah free healthcare for everyone makin' those money hungry rich people finally pay it's about dang time.
Thank you Obama! Heath care is a fundamental right guaranteed to every human on this planet. The sick right wing tea baggers will never understand this they just want to profit off your pain.
J. B. Schmidt
9:46 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Steve
Please provide documentation that shows health care is a "fundamental right".
James R Hoffa
9:50 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Yeah, that's right Steve ® - preach on brother!
Here's what those evil profiteering right-wing tea-baggers have waiting for them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAYkH-ESXW8
Steve ®
10:02 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
J.B. Wake up and stop watching faux news
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/equalrights/f/Health-Care-Human-Right.htm
Skippy peanut butter: That is pretty accurate. The sick thing about all of them is they believe they built their success. The only success they built was on the backs of the poor and minorities. They use us for profit while we suffer without basic healthcare needs.
Wake up America, corporations do not have your best interest in mind.
J. B. Schmidt
10:12 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Steve
A UN document, could you pick a more progressive organization. The least you could have done was get me an article from moveon.org. Not to mention, that article show no basis for the UN's decision accept that they were a bunch of liberals trying to force health care on the world.
Since the UN is not the governing body for our country, I was hoping you could establish via our own founding documents where anyone has said health care is a right.
Steve ®
10:28 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAR8K2KCiGc&feature=player_embedded#!
James R Hoffa
10:39 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@JB -
Yes wake up and stop watching faux news!
President Obama said it should be a fundamental right. And his election to office proves that the American people are behind him on this point! His win in 2008 is proof positive of this - even more so than a direct national public referendum on the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAR8K2KCiGc
You really need to start watching MS-NBC. Unlike Faux News, they actually tell people the truth!
Steve ®
11:02 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
JB - Your non response is telling. The supreme court has ruled that health care is now a right for all Americans. Elections have consequences and Obama has proved strong leadership in this matter. Don't you have a tea bagger rally to attend or an abortion clinic to protest? Walker probably needs more donations for his legal defense fund, hold a bake sale for your buddy
J. B. Schmidt
11:04 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Hoffa
Here I thought that tingle up my leg was just it falling asleep. Instead it was the warming glow of Obama's aura coursing through my veins.
Why is it Obama followers walk around like the little green toy aliens in Toy Story? Completely amazed by his presence and incapable of finding a flaw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzKz8vFQQU
Steve ®
11:18 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Racist
J. B. Schmidt
11:21 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Steve
Racist against little green people?
James R Hoffa
11:39 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@JB -
OK, after consulting my liberal playbook, I see that it is now the appropriate time to shift the subject. (Oops, did I type that out loud?)
Romney is a 1%'er and can't be trusted because he has off-shore Swiss bank accounts and won't show us his taxes.
Obama is a champion of the 99% and stands in solidarity with us!
Unless you make as much money as Romney does, you'll only be voting against your own self-interest if you don't vote for Obama.
Workers of the world unite!
James R Hoffa
11:47 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Steve ® -
JB is definitely your typical hate filled right-winger. Not only is he discriminating against beings of color, but it appears as if he is also against dwarfism/little people!
I bet this guy does nothing all day except loaf around in his underwear in his parent's basement watching Glenn Beck and worshiping the poster of Hitler that he has hanging on the wall!
BTW - I heard that Al Sharpton was going to have a real duesy of a show for us tonight on Politics Nation, so be sure you don't miss it!
J. B. Schmidt
12:37 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Hoffa and Steve
Glenn Beck told me that Obama was foriegn born socialist with communist parents who was raised by radical terrorist and maybe wolves. Glenn also drew out on his chalk board the exact flow chart Obama was using to transform the United States in to the Republic of Barrckopia. If it was on the chalk board it must be true.
Then yesterday I learned from Rush Limbaugh that little green people are nothing more then leaches on our welfare system. He also said that Obama issued an executive order telling homeland security to stop patrolling the border between the US and space.
Excuse now gentleman, I must plug in myself into my matrix style USB adapter I received with my online Limbaugh membership.
Steve ®
12:42 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Romney used the hard working employees of companies for profit while they starved, then laid them off when he was through raping the business. How can anyone in their right mind think about voting for this guy?
Obama has proved why we voted him into office in 2008. Saved the car compaines, healthcare for all, Mexican immigrates need not fear deportation, stabilized the economy and lowered unemployment.
The debt is now under control and the only reason it is not better is the right wingers in congress. If we would increase the taxes of the rich we could solve our deficit over night. But their big corporate interests have congress paid off. They owe it to the government to pay their fair share. They over use public services like roads and firefighters while using loopholes to not pay any taxes.
We have a choice, vote for the rich or vote for the rest of us. Romney will do nothing in office but help his rich buddies beef up their offshore bank accounts.
Keith Schmitz
1:23 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Well said Steve. This is what this election all about. After the GOP threw roadblocks to policies that we know work, in no way should they be rewarded with the White House and should lose Congress.
They have bitching about people being on food stamps. People wouldn't have to be if it wasn't for execs like Romney sending jobs overseas and browbeating people who do have jobs.
In the meantime we have Mitt in the UK, who is being labelled the American Borat.
Steve ®
1:37 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Exactly. Would we rather have them starving on the streets? This leads to an increase in crime and violence.
It is because of Romney and like that they are unable to obtain family supporting jobs. Luckily we have a president that is willing to at the very least allow them to eat three time a day, while still enjoying the freedom of picking out the food them self.
oak creek resident
9:45 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
dear Idiot (Jason)
1 trillion in "revenue" is liberal code word for 1 trillion in TAXES. In your world, 1 trillion in extra taxes is a good thing?
Your head is the empty rattling can, the more you try to sound intelligent, the more of a fool you prove yourself to be.
Dave Koven
10:44 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Rees Roberts...You are absolutely right in your comment.
Greg
1:15 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Yes, contributing to the blog by staying on topic, is important. This blog needs more comments, about comments, that are about the comments.
Steve ®
2:32 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Greg I really liked your comment and all of the letters that you typed to make words that made my inside head reading ears tingle in bliss.
Greg
2:49 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Thank you, there a just not enough nice comments, about comments, in this blog. Your comment, that you liked my comment, makes me want to comment, that I am elated to read your nice comment, about my comment.
Steve ®
3:24 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Dear Greg-
I was ecstatic to read your comment this afternoon. Enjoyment was had by all hearing how you had a positive reaction to my comment regarding your previous comment. The comment relating to my positive reaction about your comment was also well received.
I do hope that you can enjoy this new comment, in response to your comment, which was about my comment, which started with your comment on needing more comments, about comments.
Best Regards-
Steve ®