The entire tone of the article is seditious, in my opinion.

Says Randy, after your president divided races, classes and called for revenge. Says Randy, after senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett said, “After we win this election, it's our turn. Payback time!” Now Randy has the sudden bravado to call out "a subtle threat" under the guise of wanting "to bring us all together for the good of a nation."

Good luck with that Randy.

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I'm sorry Hitler was elected in a democratic process.

@tao... which lies are you referring to?

Mike, start with birtherism and death panels, and then keep reading.

I liked the paying for other people's 'whoring' myself, although that was just opinion.

Yeah, she is one sorry human being all right.

Randy, really? Have at her with shots about her opinion but treating her like a criminal is a little over the top.
Do you two have some history together that I am not privy to?

@Craig -- One can be a sorry human being without breaking any criminal laws. It's more a case of pointing an angry finger at the more in someone else's eye while ignoring several large beams in her own.

Death panels for Medicare and Medicaid patients are already a reality taoist. Doctors, nurses and staff have already coined (and I do mean coined) a p.c. code for it. It's now being called "the pathway", or simply "the path" for short and the number of patients chosen for it has dramatically increased over the past several years. Do your homework before spouting such nonsense tao.

Noelle Lorraine had hopes of being a GOP operative in Waukesha County. She blogged here about six months ago, and she was just as 'misguided' back then.

@muskego mom.... but I'm sure you are fine and dandy with the likes of Jason and the Rube?

Yes, Ms. Lorraine has returned. Is she still a regional "organizer" for my favorite Koch brothers-funded "grassroots" Super PAC, Americans for Prosperity?

I wonder, after the miscalculations of the 2012 presidential election, if the Koch boys would have better luck resuscitating one of their dad Fred's favorite issues, the "water fluoridization is a communist plot to poison American children" meme? Perhaps this is a concept the "conservative beast" can really "unleash themselves" over... ; )

Sounds like Bren has finally gotten over ALEC.

Now on to the Koch Brothers!

Anti, I won't be "over" ALEC until 1) it is marginalized and 2) we are shed of our ALEC governor.

Nothing in my post is incorrect. Ms. Lorraine is/was an organizer for AFP and one of the memorable memes of the John Birch Society in the 1950s was its anti-fluoridation stance (and why). This stuff writes itself.

Hmmmm. we say the same things about the MSM, George Soros, Think Progress, Daily Kos, all the newspapers...whatever. There are people who are unelected and don't have to be doctors that will telling states how many procedures will be allowed...once that amount is reached, nobody will be able to have that test...it is called rationing...those same unelected non doctors will be able to choose life or death for many of you...Obama did say that people will just have to be given pain killers if treatment options for older people won't do as good if the same treatment goes to a younger person.....so there is a death panel...right now if you go to the hospital and are treated then sent home, you can't go back with recurring symptoms for up to 30 days or the hospital is fined, that just went into effect. Abortion is covered even though obama promised it wasn't and was even called a liar by Congressman Wilson at his SOU speech and it turns out he was correct.....See many of us have read the document because we are business owners who are laying off people right now in order to afford the taxes and the regulations.....we are making sure to put people with Obama Stickers on their cars, first on the lay off list...you get what you vote for.

"right now if you go to the hospital and are treated then sent home, you can't go back with recurring symptoms for up to 30 days or the hospital is fined,"

Do you know why that is? It is so that hospitals won't be tempted to discharge patients early and without making sure the patient has adequate home support to make sure medication is taken, etc. It's called good medicine.

As for the rest of it, you seem to be conflating health insurance, Medicaid and Medicare all together. Are you doing the right thing and dropping your personal health coverage since you object to paying for that of your employees?

Naynay, pre-ACA and even now you have severely underqualified people denying claims and treatments, wasting the time of physicians and hospitals, and review panels whose focus is protecting profits. That's the for-profit health insurance industry you apparently prefer. A middle man that gets in between patients and health services. Doesn't it make more sense to take the middle man out of the equation? But the Affordable Care Act is not a national healthcare program, would that it were. I perceive it as an attempt to rein in the profiteering of the health insurance middle man. If it doesn't work, this country seriously needs to consider a NH plan.

Bren wrote: " Anti, I won't be "over" ALEC until 1) it is marginalized and 2) we are shed of our ALEC governor."

Annnnd that's why the parties aren't working together.

My way or the Highway Bren has spoken.

Muskego Mom - this is a great article and I agree with her 100% Anger issues? What are you talking about? I really think liberals have a really twisted definition of anger. Liberals are the angry ones - not us. Your comment is written in the same tone that her blog is - are you angry? Of course not - you are a compassionate liberal - living in Muskego just about says it all..

Anti, ALEC is a special interest-type organization with bi-partisan legislative membership (although there are far more GOP members). I am of the firm belief that the influence of special interest groups, not just ALEC is proving ruinous to our country's financial health and security over the long term. If our nation is to be truly "equal opportunity" that means equal access to legislators, even if the constituent can't offer a book deal or other perks. Obviously that's an idealistic view, but one I believe to be inherently sound.

Nothing comes up for the nom de guerre, Muskego Mom either. Hmm.

@Jay - Amen. Thanks for saying that.

Can't say that enough......

It's funny you bring that up Heather. You support free rape kits as long as a certain side is represented and in your case defended. But now it's time to drop hate and anger. I find this an interesting flip or flop in 4 short weeks.

@Steve - free rape kits? Oh, boy. I see the message is lost ...

Mr. Murdock probably didn't help much either.

@Bob - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks ... I needed that laugh.

Exactly, Dawn. We could use more of this kind of stuff...

http://whitefishbay.patch.com/blog_posts/whats-white-crusty-full-of-holes-and-aging-quickly-the-gop

http://whitefishbay.patch.com/blog_posts/election-results-the-death-of-white-male-dominance

Let's all get together and unite around that.

I was hoping that once the election was over we could maybe work together. I have a definite vision of what is best, but I'm willing to share sacrifice as long as it's shared.

@Bob - no matter if this kind of thinking comes from a man or a woman, we should really look for the areas in which we agree and always start there.

It's really got nothing to do with men and women, Heather (other than the fact that if you can sell this notion that the GOP is nothing but crusty old white men, you can attempt to set up Hillary's run in 2016). It's got to do with the extremes on either side being unwilling to give up their hardened positions. It's not gonna change.

Hence, there's no sense complaining about logjams in Washington and a lack of coming together. They're only doing what the voters want them to do, as evidenced by the results of this election. More of the same stuff we've had over the past 4 years.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
-- Albert Einstein

Same Senate,Same House,Same President;Insanity

Randy1949 wrote: "I was hoping that once the election was over we could maybe work together. I have a definite vision of what is best, but I'm willing to share sacrifice as long as it's shared."

Depends on what you mean by "work together". B.O. and the Democrats didn't even stick out a hand these last four years. B.O. Care is the best example. Once it passed the Senate, and the Dems had a majority in the House they could have approached the Republicans and said "look, something is going to pass. Either this piece of garbage which will burden the middle class and ruin the economy, or something we can come up with together."

But none of that happened. Another wasted opportunity brought to you by B.O.

It's a metaphor Tao. We have seen our freedoms eroding away over the past several decades. First Social Security forced upon us, then Medicare, now B.O.Care. I no longer have the choice to carry health insurance or not. B.O. has made that choice for me.

Only in conservative-land is almost eight decades 'several'. It shows the same wealth of historical knowledge as when Ms. Lorraine tried to tell us that the GOP was the party of Lincoln and civil rights for black people.

I don't like the individual mandate either, Alinsky, but neither do I like paying for your healthcare indirectly through cost of goods and services or increased medical costs to cover bad debts while I have none for myself. Here's a thought -- the GOP still controls the House. You guys give us a healthcare system that works better than the ACA and I'm sure it will be popular.

Or by freedom, do you mean the freedom to get your health insurance through your business while not covering your employees?

He'd be proposing marriage, i'm sure.

Do we need to have Kitty Carlisle unmask the Randy impostor.

It's time now... To Tell The Truth.... will the real Randy stand-up now.....

Oh yes, I'm all for free speech. I hope Noelle Lorraine keeps it up. It explains why Mitt Romney lost.

Two level-headed "progressives" who get it...

http://whitefishbay.patch.com/blog_posts/whats-white-crusty-full-of-holes-and-aging-quickly-the-gop

http://whitefishbay.patch.com/blog_posts/election-results-the-death-of-white-male-dominance

Annie-

Do you have your copy of the U. S. Constitution bundled up w/ your bible and high school diploma inside the dash of your Ford/GM? Got to have everything at hand when barreling down the road listening to good ole Charlie.

@Annie Brewer -- No, sarcasm and ranting are not all that Conservative have left. You could try maturity and grace in loss -- the same that was expected of us last June.

About the Constitution, you do have a point about habeus corpus and the NDAA, but where was your indignation when we got the Patriot Act?

She clearly states her veiwpoints? Really? Noelle's writing is juvenile, it's hard to imagine an adult wrote it. I could almost compare it to a 9th graders term paper, it lacks any real depth or understanding. It's like a child throwing a tantrum, it's mostly nonsense. Noelle and people like her, listen to their pundits and FOX "news" and eat up every word as truth, like it came directly from God. They don't bother to do any research to find out what is truth. Liberals want to reach across the vast gulf that separate us now and TRY to work together. Liberals are not talking about buying up guns or stocking up on ammunition. Rush, Icky Vicky and every other right-wing, teabillie sister humper pundit is advocating this. Why? So they can start a war against their fellow Americans? Is THAT their answer to loosing the election? Is THAT how adults deal with things? You know what? I'm sorry you people are not adult enough to want to meet in the middle. I'm sorry that your way of thinking is almost a thing of the past. I'm sorry that you can't see beyond the end of your nose. I'm sorry that you wouldn't recognize truth, if it bit you on the butt. I'm sorry that your "patriotism" is actually thinly veiled racism. In the end, I'm not really sorry about any thing I stated. I'm only sorry that I lost five minute of my life reading her drivel.

I am here for an open and honest debate; however, if ppl cannot be civil toward one another, no thank you. It is also puzzling to see so many insecure winners on this thread. Bulletin: Your candidate won! Be happy, be confident, and enlightening!

Annie, I really don't see that much incivility in the comments, given the tone of the blog post. 'Insecure winners' are going to respond to an insecure and ungracious loser.

EveKendall - and you listen to Chris - "glad so many people died in the hurricane" - Matthews and Rachel Maddow - yeah, that's some great journalism. Cripes.

@JMB -- Yes, the Conservatives were so restrained before the election and they are accepting the will of the majority with such grace and maturity now.

I recall two recent elections where the 'liberal' side lost by the same margin and we were pretty much told to suck it the next day. No real offer of compromise.

No one is handing out 'free contraceptives' that were not being handed out before.

You are correct, Randy. Blog posters including Noelle Lorraine are not allowed to delete comments they don't like.

No, it happened more than once to a mixed-race couple my parents knew years ago.

To whoever did it -- shame.

How awful! This is certainly a hate crime against the Italians, perhaps the most oppressed ethnicity in America.

Miss Noelle thinks she's an "operative". Can you say delusions of grandeur? You really think someone torched your car because of this stupid blog? Really???? You are delusional, I would bet it was an ex boyfriend or you did it yourself. The blog is not worth damaging someone's personal property over. I do hope you notified the police.

There seems to be quite a bit of rust on this car as if it has been sitting for quite some time. No vestiges of a license plate. No evidence that provides a specific place for the car. And, of this hour, no news alerts of a politically-motivated attack on Noelle Lorraine. If this occurred overnight or this morning shouldn't we have heard about it by now?

TruthTeller01 – I'm afraid I can't and don't agree with you that this is a forum for dissecting a writer's personal life because of her political views – especially when that person has put herself at the disadvantage of providing her full name, thus identifying herself to anyone wishing to background check her, while you and other commenters use aliases that prevent her or others from returning the favor.

Nope, I reap what she sows. I have been sitting here monitoring this comment thread half the day to protect Ms. Lorraine, the same way I have promised to protect anyone who blogs for me, from personal attacks that are irrelevant to the subject and the opinions expressed and are counter to the terms of service agreed to by every Patch user.

But Jim, shouldn't you be protecting us from hyperbole? ; )

Bren, if I did that there wouldn't be much left to read ;)

@Sunrocket -- I truly wish I could copy/paste some of the things I've been reading on various message boards since Monday morning -- vile racist stuff and business owners closing down their operations simply because they'd have to give their employees health insurance now (even though they brag of Cadillac plans for themselves). I think it would change your perception that only the liberals are angry.

"At least conservatives are not hypocrites, practically every liberal I know is"

Could your statement be any more subjective? It's also more than a little ironic, given the course of this thread.

" Considering your side presented no other alternative I guess you had not one to vote for."

How often do we see a serious challenger to an incumbent President?

As little as i like the status quo, II would prefer the status quo to turning around and heading back to where we were in the fall of 2008.

If you're gonna do the 15 second analysis of what ails her, is it asking too much to at least get the spelling of her name right? Unless you were referring to someone else entirely and just misplaced this....Noel Redding....Gallagher....Coward?

@Bob McBride...Thanks for catching my error.

@Lyle -- I would have said it was Noelle's behind that got handed to her last time, but you're so much more elegantly-spoken than I am.

I'd like to call BS on this entire rant of hers, but one thing I must point out:

" I am sorry that as a single mom without child support, I refuse to collect entitlements at the hand of the top 1 percent."

As if it's only the top 1 percent who pay for those 'entitlements' that help struggling single mothers. We all pay for those, and we lower bracket types pay more when the 1 percenters get their tax breaks.

I really took exception to her remark about paying for other women's 'whoring'.

Well, Noelle started it with "Barrack" ... haha.

@The Real Randy 1949....I too took exception to her remarks and like you find the her comment about "whoring" particularly distressing. Back in the day, I knew quite a few liberal radicals who were as ingrained in their revolutionary positions as Noelle is in hers. A few of them died in a police shootout and that was probably a good thing for the overall society. One of the things I take away from her rant is how very dangerous her position has become to the general public welfare. When people take those extreme positions, either right or left, they lose perspective and start viewing everything through the lens of hatred and are apt to make inappropriate decisions followed by horrible actions. If she wasn't already on a government watch list, this rant will probably put her there. She appears unstable enough to do something drastic.

@Lyle

You just inferred that Noelle dang in a shoot out like those others would be better for society. While pretending to be some bastion of civility.

You are a hypocrite. And aside from just annoying me in general, it makes me even more irritated that you're forcing me to defend the woman. Her character is questionable. But with your above comment, so is yours.

Hey Jim Price, you've got more moderating to do.....

*dying.

Stupid iPad autocorrect

@Edward Willing -- Good lord, man, you should proof your posts before you hit submit. Lyle said no such thing. And do you even know what a bastion is?

Hmm... Hoffa seems to recall that Lyle keeps 'a file' on Mr. Willing!

Anyone else remember that?

@Michael McClusky...I am sorry to disappoint you, but I'll continue to write.

@the Rube... and we will continue to NOT read.

So, you didn't work for American For Prosperity?

Congratulations on finding a more lucrative position, then.

"I did work for AFP. I wasn't fired."

That puts an interesting light on your 'grassroots' post of last February.