Actually, that's a teeny piece of his vacation budget... Last year it cost us $1BILLION for the POTUS' travel and vacation schedule...

Speaker John A. Boehner and three-quarters of House Republicans voted for the agreement. To use Mr. Hoeven’s word, both parties “promoted” their compromise, including sequestration. Mr. Boehner said he had gotten “98 percent” of what he wanted.

For Obama to raise the debt limit and waste more borrowed money expanding his government he agreed and created sequestration.

Here are the average spending increases per year in raw dollars (not adjusted for inflation) in descending order by president:

President Fiscal year baseline Last fiscal year Percent Increase per year
Carter 1977 1981 16.4
Nixon 1969 1975 13.5
Johnson 1964 1969 11.0
George W. Bush 2001 2009 10.2
Reagan 1981 1989 8.6
Kennedy 1961 1964 7.1
George H.W. Bush 1989 1993 5.8
Clinton 1993 2001 4.0
Eisenhower 1953 1961 3.6
Obama 2009 2013 1.4

You can "feel" that President Obama has grown government faster than any other president, but your feelings would not be based in fact. By law, Congress sets spending and the preisident is required to spend.

Based on facts, Ronald Regan grew government over 6 times more than our current President.

Ugh....

Your baseline is flawed. It does not include OBAMA's 1 trillion stimulus. Which happened under a "Bush" fiscal year. Fiscal years start in October 2009 stimulus was in FEb. 2009. Amazing.

So your propaganda gives stimulus to the Bush percentages. Then Obama keeps up the trillions in spending constant. So the increase looks small but when you throw out that first huge year anything would.

This junk data is made for low information voters on Facebook. Don't play this crap with me again. It doesn't fly.

Turn off your hate radio.

Change the channel from the lowest IQ FOX propaganda machine.

Do a little research on your own. These are facts, not something I make up.

What part don't you understand??? Congress controls spending. Let me repeat that... Congress controls spending.

"Here are the average spending increases per year in raw dollars (not adjusted for inflation) in descending order by president:

President Fiscal year baseline Last fiscal year Percent Increase per year"

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It's one or the other, not both. The increases are percentage increases. If you used average raw dollars instead of percentages, it would have been an entirely different chart. If you're going to call people out for their lack of accurate information, please make sure yours can't be categorized the same way.

ugh again. What you post is a complete fabrication. You are the one that needs the research. Obama has added $5 Trillion plus to the debt, how can you even think that he would not have a higher percentage of spending? Use your common sense.

Year before me spent $50
*** I get into office ***
I spend $100 year one
I spend $101 year two
I spend $103 year two
I spend $101 year four

I throw out year one spending when doing an average

My percentage of increased spending is 1%'

This is exactly what your crap data did. It threw out spending Jan - Sept 2009. I warned you not to play this crap with me, you are now just making yourself look like what your post was trying to conclude.

Steve Ebbie, here is some facts for you from the GAO:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/341589/gao-report-obamacare-adds-62-trillion-long-term-deficit-andrew-stiles

Mr. Ebbie- where did you go? Don't you want to defend your copy pastia? A 60% increase in the debt over 4 years can only compute to 1.4% increased spending right? You call us dumb and idiots all the time back your math up tiger.

Run Ebbie Run

Nothing is on the chopping block, B.O. said that he is just going to make the rich pay more of their fair share. Last time he said that, like two months ago, every middle class paycheck saw a tax hit.

Spell much?

I know you are waiting, but someone needs to define fair share.

"Spell much?" Who?

Don't forget the lessons and golfing with Tiger.

So now garbage cans are getting ObamaPhones?

Did Reagan pay cash?

Did Bush the First pay cash?

Did Bush the Lesser pay cash?

They didn't waste this on failed energy companies. Your questions are invalid.

Between Greg and Stevie I don't think that either one has a brain. Two of Walkers puppets.

You're.

So keep going in debt to pay for Hawaiian vacations?

And I do create jobs in the real world. And have a budget. And am not in debt. And invest with profits not promises. And I only golf once a year, paid for with private funds.

Mustard should not enter a battle of brains when he is an unarmed man.

Colonel Mustard –

These two mature intellectual giants are part of the TP/GOP cabal that constantly appear here on the Patch to whine, and whine and whine about President Obama – they do not like tanned people – any program proposed and/or implemented by any Democrat and are filled with self-loathing.

One would think President Obama was the first president to have an inaugural, a party, a presidential ball, a vacation or have DOE funded or any government-funded project fail.

These are simply powerless, ineffectual sycophants, with completely closed minds, spewing their hatred, because that is all they possess.

John Wilson, Your race baiting shows how you struggle intellectually to make an argument against the positions they take. You have to reach to the lowest level to try and ignore the fact that they make factual points while you have to throw out completely false accusations. You are a sad human being who I would guess hasn't succeeded at anything and blames everyone else for your lack of success.

These two mature intellectual giants are part of the TP/GOP cabal that constantly appear here on the Patch to whine, and whine and whine about President Obama – they do not like tanned people...
This statement is racist in so many ways. To infer that someone who is GOP or Intellectual is not tanned is disgusting.
I guess it is par for the course for a self admitted pot smoker.
Really nothing Wilson says can be credible.

John Wilson- you are a bigot and a racist. The color of your skin does not dtermine that, it is the content of your heart. Have you learned nothing from Dr. Martin Luther King?

BTW- John Wilson, Obama isn't a terrible President because of his color, but because of his lack of leadership and his policies.

John Wilson, the mental midget, does not understand that this issue is not about other Presidents. This is all Obama. John's comments prove that he knows $3 words, but that his intellectual process is not worth $.02.

This is just a tan? Oh thank God, I thought I was going to stay this way. I have tried everything, to wash it off, but nothing worked. Thanks to Mr. Wilson I can stop trying and if I stay out of the sun for a while I will be white as milk, in no time. Mr. Wilson, Will I still enjoy fried chicken when my tan goes away?

Craig –

Everyone who frequents the Patch on a somewhat regular basis, knows that I smoke Marijuana on Wednesday and the weekends… including that in your every post only diminishes what miniscule sense your posts convey.

Wrong,
It illustrates your impaired judgment.
Those of us who do not want to be judged on the basis of how much melatonin is in our skin cells need to be reminded why you make these inappropriate race remarks.
Genetically, we all come from the same genetic Adam and Eve in Africa's Great Rift Valley.
We all would be better off if you stuck with the topic, rather than making off color remarks in order to offend people. You have become so predictable when you have no argument for facts.

Brian Dey –

“John Wilson- you are a bigot and a racist. The color of your skin does not dtermine that, it is the content of your heart. Have you learned nothing from Dr. Martin Luther King?”

So says the guy who cannot spell and embraces a 99.999% lily White TP/GOP party…

John Wilson- Just keep blogging. You are only proving my point more and more. Pure racist. And yes, people of color can be racist. In your cae, moreso.

Craig –

IF you were truly in search of FACTS, instead of just attempting to undermine my arguments by referencing my Marijuana use in every post, you would simply compare and contrast the racial/ethnic population of the 2-parties, and you might even consult the election results of 2008/2012 to ascertain who voted – among racial groups – for which presidential candidate, and why. You might look at the number of minorities in high positions within the GOP ranks – you threw out Steele; you might even stop all the overt racists’ remarks against Blacks and Latinos – coming from your leaders, who later, offer an insincere and half-hearted apology. Further, you might want to look at the composition of the GOP House/Senate; we will not even go to the tokenism of women in places of power within the GOP.

The FACT is that the GOP is an old, lily White, racist, misogynistic party that is dying because it refuses to embrace diversity; softening your rhetoric toward the groups you people detest is NOT going to gain you their votes.

You simply cannot argue the FACTS, which is why you continually revert to Marijuana and impaired, personal character assassination…

How are you doing with keeping those “outsiders” out of the Falls?

The FACT is that you and your ilk “Can’t handle the truth!”

Craig –

“Genetically, we all come from the same genetic Adam and Eve in Africa's Great Rift Valley.”

Only if you completely ignore all science and throw out evolution, can you even begin to entertain such an absurd statement.

I would suspect your next completely lucid argument is going to be you thoroughly researched the Bible or GOD spoke to you and confirmed this information.

And, YOU, of all people, have the audacity to suggest that I am impaired?

Wilson: You may want to go back and read my post again to reabsorb what I said.
I can restate it AGAIN for you if your buzz has worn off a little bit: Not every TP/GOP member is white.
One seriously has to question if you have forgotten to remove a few pages from your calendar.
I am finished debating any issues with you, as you ignore the truth while you muddy the waters with twisted logic and misrepresentations, along with race baiting just to change the subject.
The days of the leisure suit used car sales tactics, "Would I lie to you?" are over.
You are a dinosaur.

Brian Dey -

WHITE is the absence of color...

Wilson: This will be my last reply to you.
Science has proven the genetic Eve, as well as Adam.
The link may be lengthy for you to read during a good buzz, but if you scroll down to mitochondrial Eve- this should be all you need to comprehend.
http://www.crystalinks.com/adameve.html
If you do not like the source, perhaps someone at Mensa will be able to assist you with a google search.
Even if you ignore all religion and rely on science only- and I am still right.
You are so self absorbed with your intelligence, you have forgotten to adapt to modern science.
DINOSAUR.

@John Wilson -- "Craig:“Genetically, we all come from the same genetic Adam and Eve in Africa's Great Rift Valley.”

Only if you completely ignore all science and throw out evolution, can you even begin to entertain such an absurd statement."

Was that statement absurd? The last I heard, humanity did have common ancestors that could be traced back to Africa. Science traced the mitochondrial DNA in the case of the African 'Eve'. As the ancestors of modern Europeans migrated north, they developed paler skins to be able to capture Vitamin D from the weaker sunlight in northern latitudes.

"Brian Dey -

WHITE is the absence of color.."

Actually, black is the absence of color. White is the presence of all the color spectra. At least when we're talking about light in the physics lab.

John Wilson:

How does the concept of a 'genetic Eve' "ignore all science and throw out evolution"? Open up your mind a bit and understand what is being said before you go on your rants against the Bible and/or God...

John Wilson- Your ignorance and intolerance of people that do not look like you really amazes me. If any Caucasian threw around the hate speech and racial slurs, they would be chastised by the Patch and their comments pulled. You might want to try reading Dr. Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech. There is no place for comments and prejudice based on one's skin color.

CowDung –

“Genetically, we all come from the same genetic Adam and Eve in Africa's Great Rift Valley.”

This is the quote we are discussing, not any “concept of a ‘genetic Eve.’

Adam and Eve is religion; genetics is science.

Do not even attempt to conflate the two, as it is extremely disingenuous, dangerous and sheer intellectual fraud.

If you are talking about 'Adam and Eve', it's the Bible. If you are talking about 'genetic Adam and Eve', it's science.

Maybe this link will help you understand, John.

http://scienceblogs.com/authority/2007/07/17/adam-eve-and-why-they-never-go/

Randy1949 –

Whenever you attempt to merge religious myths with science, you are sure to do a disservice to both. Crystalinks.com/adameve is slightly worse than citing the Bible.

The last I heard:

“Scientists could be forced to re-write the history of the evolution of modern man after the discovery of 400,000-year-old human remains.

Until now, researchers believed that homo sapiens, the direct descendants of modern man, evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago and gradually migrated north, through the Middle East, to Europe and Asia.

Recently, discoveries of early human remains in China and Spain have cast doubt on the 'Out of Africa' theory, but no-one was certain.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1341973/Did-humans-come-Middle-East-Africa-Scientists-forced-write-evolution-modern-man.html

Randy1949 -

“WHITE is the absence of color.."
Actually, black is the absence of color. White is the presence of all the color spectra. At least when we're talking about light in the physics lab.”

As long as you qualified your statement with “At least when we’re talking about light in the physics lab” I’ll give you a pass. [Although I doubt that you & Brian live in a physics lab]

Actually, the question of color is open for debate; depending upon which sense, you are employing the term.

To answer that you must distinguish between colors of light and colors of pigment. In light, white is the presence of all colors. In pigments, white is the absence of all colors.

“The answer to the question - "Are black and white colors?" - is one of the most debated issues about color. Ask a scientist and you'll get a reply based on physics: “Black is not a color, white is a color.” Ask an artist or a child with crayons and you'll get another: “Black is a color, white is not a color.” (Maybe!)”

http://www.colormatters.com/color-and-design/are-black-and-white-colors

http://askville.amazon.com/white-absence-color-black-combination-colors/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3896130

John Wilson:

We are talking about two separate scientific discoveries. The one in your link is fossil evidence of human existence, the other is genetic evidence. Both are science based findings...

Does anyone else picture this as a perfect example for: "This is your brain on drugs" public service announcement?
For a man who touts "I am a member of Mensa", it is clear that the devil lettuce kills brain cells.

CowDung -

“We are talking about two separate scientific discoveries. The one in your link is fossil evidence of human existence, the other is genetic evidence. Both are science based findings...”

The discovery I sited is the latest; your data is from a 200,000 year old fossil, while mine is from a 400,000 year old fossil - no, not you or Craig - and just where do you think the genetic evidence came from?

Did GOD bring it down and hand it over to scientists?

The genetic material was derived from the fossils…

Not sure why you keep trying to bring God into the discussion--are you trying to deflect or distract?

You link makes no mention of any genetic testing on the 400k your old fossils. It didn't state that the 'new' genetic Adam and/or Eve had been found with the fossils evidence discussed in your link.

You should note that 'genetic Adam and Eve' aren't thought to be the first humans on the planet--they are the earliest humans that we can trace our genetics back to. Mitochondrial Eve lived 50,000 years before Y Chromosome Adam...

Craig -

I did not get any response, any FACTS, just a humongous amount of deafening silence from you on the following, posted at 1:09p today… As I said, ‘You just can’t handle the truth!’

‘IF you were truly in search of FACTS, instead of just attempting to undermine my arguments by referencing my Marijuana use in every post, you would simply compare and contrast the racial/ethnic population of the 2-parties, and you might even consult the election results of 2008/2012 to ascertain who voted – among racial groups – for which presidential candidate, and why. You might look at the number of minorities in high positions within the GOP ranks – you threw out Steele; you might even stop all the overt racists’ remarks against Blacks and Latinos – coming from your leaders, who later, offer an insincere and half-hearted apology. Further, you might want to look at the composition of the GOP House/Senate; we will not even go to the tokenism of women in places of power within the GOP.’

@John Wilson -- "To answer that you must distinguish between colors of light and colors of pigment. In light, white is the presence of all colors. In pigments, white is the absence of all colors."

What is a pigment but a compound that absorbs light from most of the spectrum but reflects back a specific wavelength? All color is reflected light, and white paint most certainly does contain pigment.

Brian Dey Learn how to spell. Big mouth no brains.

CowDung –

“You link makes no mention of any genetic testing on the 400k your old fossils."

“You link”? I believe you mean to say, “Your link”. And, I believe “on the 400k your old fossils.” was intended to read “on the 400k year old fossils.”

That being said, there is no GENETIC ADAM OR EVE; this is a religious concept dragged into genetics and science! It is a meaningless and incomprehensible quasi-scientific phrase. There was no Adam or Eve; hence, there can be no genetic Adam, no genetic Eve. [We have discovered the genetic Mighty Mouse and the genetic Mini Mouse though.]

The Qesem Cave Project is still an ongoing archaeological operation, therefore, I cannot tell you if or when any genetic testing will occur or has occurred. [At least it was in October of 2011] Genetic testing takes time and much peer verification and publication, especially in light of the potential of moving the theory of man’s beginnings on the planet from Africa to the mid-east. Oops…

Please cite me some credible, reputable genetic scientist who is perverting science with terms such as “genetic Adam” or “genetic Eve”, and I will show you someone with a decided religious agenda. [Not MY idea of a scientist.]

I know, they – mostly the media – has pushed the Higgs Boson Particle search as a search for the “GOD Particle” I can only wish them good luck with that, as MAN created GOD…

John Wilson:

You are incorrect. The use of the terms 'Adam' and 'Eve' when talking about the genetic mother and father of humanity is not an attempt to mix science and religion. Nor is it an indication that the scientists have a religious agenda.

The genetic Eve lived 200,000 years ago--virtually impossible according to the Fundamentalist Christians that claim the earth to be only 7000 years old. Also, the genetic Adam and Eve were not married and did not mate with each other--they lived 140,000 years apart, not to mention in different locations. This also does not agree with what is written in the Bible.

If you poke around the internets, you will find that those working hardest to discredit genetic Eve (besides you) are the Creationists, as it conflicts with their anti-evolution religious beliefs.

CowDung –

“You are incorrect. The use of the terms 'Adam' and 'Eve' when talking about the genetic mother and father of humanity is not an attempt to mix science and religion. Nor is it an indication that the scientists have a religious agenda.”

I am spot on. Adam and Eve are inextricable bound to religion and the Bible. You may attempt to slice and dice it anyway you want, however it is simply insanity. Genetics and science have absolutely nothing to do with any imaginary biblical Adam and Eve. I think it makes about a much sense as attempting to separate Darwin from Evolution.

Furthermore, the conflation of the two is extremely dangerous for humankind. You get rid of all GODS and religions and man can begin to grow and realize his true potential, instead of being bound to the imaginary big daddy in the sky.

An Ovum is not a mother; a sperm cell is not a father. Even the concept of a mother and father of humankind is intellectually abhorrent.

I suspect we will simply have to disagree on this one; first time that has happened.

Moreover, yes, I voted for President Obama, TWICE; I do not have to agree with him on everything, and I do not. To me he was a better choice than hotdog McCain and robotic Willard.

John Wilson:

I think that your opinion is clouded by your bigotry. Your hatred of religion causes you to see a connection to religion where there truly is not. Can you not understand metaphorical references to themes that help to explain complicated things to non-scientists?

1:41 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Wilson: This will be my last reply to you...
Will someone please enlighten Wilson... I never mentioned Steele- ever.

Sorry Colonel, but you are comparing apples to oranges.
After WWII, our Debt to GDP was higher.
BUT you forget we had a huge economic boom then. Inflation and a growing economy are effective to wipe out debt.
Today our GDP is shrinking.
Ask for your credit card limit to be increased while you are unemployed- see how well that economics tactic works for you.
The current POTUS has outspent every previous one. He has accumulated more Debt in 4 years 2 months than both Bush's combined over 12 years.
I don't give a rats ass what his pastime is, he has a job to do for the US and is playing more than working.

Hook line and sinker, I caught me a Mustard

The frugal expenditures of Obama are posted to point out how silly $27 million in "cuts" is. And where it could come from if it was so important. We want microchips in trash cans but not feed seniors.

Obama is still spending more this fiscal year than last, so don't worry, the government is still growing even as we are on the fringe of another recession. yippie!

Have you seen this? http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Speaker John A. Boehner and three-quarters of House Republicans voted for the agreement. To use Mr. Hoeven’s word, both parties “promoted” their compromise, including sequestration. Mr. Boehner said he had gotten “98 percent” of what he wanted.

Wrong again. Jackie Kennedy, Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton and other First Ladies have taken trips separate from the husbands (Presidents). It's on the record that Bush the Lesser took more vacation days away from DC than any other President, even Reagan.

Craig -- stop with the comparison of a family budget to that of a sovereign nation -- it is not a valid comparison. A sovereign nation can create money and they do, however a family or individual cannot. The analogy is just wrong and simplistic.

Actually Col. Mustard, much of the time Bush 43 spent in Crawford and Camp David was working. He seemed to enjoy entertaining foreign leaders at his ranch.

The golf issue stemmed from the Liberals rant when Bush golfed in 2003 during the Iraq war. Despite the fact it had nothing to with the war effort, he gave it up. Not surprisingly, he got criticized for that as well. Conservatives are just pointing out the double standard Liberals apply to Republicans, and not themselves!

Wow. Compelling.

Created an 8 word alias in order to post a two word, ironic comment. Nice work.

Rees Roberts is going to be angry with that kind of thing...

This guy is brilliant...not!

Another anonymous liberal coward?

They are idots.

Bucky- If you are going to be the spelling police, maybe you should learn to spell yourself. It's "idiot", not idot. A word you should know so well.

If I had to raise a family on a $4000 budget, I'd need every bit of that to live on...

Hey, people - rather than throwing pearls after swine, we need to simply ignore the cretinous, obtuse, dullards like John Wilson and their foetid hot air. People of this ilk with their racism and and philistinism simply aren't worth the time. Let's engage with people who have a good grasp of the facts and use logic, data, and common sense.

barium –

"Hey, people - rather than throwing pearls after swine, we need to simply ignore the cretinous, obtuse, dullards like John Wilson and their foetid hot air.”

I would listen to barium, as he knows words not in the dictionary, cannot afford spellcheck or is simply incapable of mastering the technique.

“foetid hot air.” This sentence should end with fetid hot air.

You are welcome...

John 'the English teacher' Wilson:

"The discovery I sited is the latest; your data is from a 200,000 year old fossil,..."

Your statement above is incorrect--it should be 'cited', not 'sited'.

At least you are consistent, John:

Another of your statements from another thread on Patch:
"Please, do not site anymore YouTube garbage as your sources of profound information;..."

You are welcome.

"I would listen to barium, as he knows words not in the dictionary, cannot afford spellcheck or is simply incapable of mastering the technique.

“foetid hot air.” This sentence should end with fetid hot air."

Seriously, John Wilson, you don't recognize British spelling?

CowDung -

“Your statement above is incorrect--it should be 'cited', not 'sited'.”

Thank you!

Now I have to endure 30-lashes from a hot leather whip by my lovely dominatrix, just because my Dragon Naturally Speaking has software glitches...

Randy1949 –

Nous sommes en Amérique, pas R-U !

Lay off the lefty talking points Sara. Don't be a parrot...

Walker saved the jobs of teachers. The union plan was for layoffs in exchange for not paying into benefits.

I don' know about that. All I know is that the details of the sequester cuts were voted on by all of Congress as a kind of 'poison pill' to make them get up of their dead behinds and come up with a better budget solution. Since they haven't. an across the board cut seems fair to me.

The real problem is the effect it will have on an already fragile economic recovery.

Fiscal year 2013 spends more than Fiscal 2012, even with sequester. So yes, in a sense it is a reduction in additional spending.

Actually Randy, it was Obama's scheme.

WaitingForTheSpark –

It really does not appear that your “real free speech” is in any way imperiled, as you do seem to be free-associating quite liberally here.

Please tell me more about your eclectic economic theories, healthier economic growth and what militia group do you belong.

I will be anxiously waiting for the spark…

You are not wrong. Washatonion cuts are exactly that...cuts in the growth of spending. Nothing more nothing less. And even tho the vast majority of people do not know this, it is exactly as both parties want it to be. The less we know the better off both political parties are, but espicially the democrats. Very, very few of democratic voters actually know the facts. They deal strictly on emotion.

Randy1949 –

While you are indeed correct, it does not change any thing. Further, it will also affect the middle class and more importantly, the poor who desperately need many of these services. Getting congress to say anything except, “NO!” is a Herculean task. If you thought the 112th congress was dysfunctional, may I suggest that you have not seen anything to match what is coming down the tube?

Given that both parties did vote for the sequester, although, proportionately, a vastly higher number of Republicans voted for it than did Democrats. The Republicans do seem in line to take a huge hit from all of this "messing with the fragile economy, stupid." It would seem to me that they simply, as a group, are incapable of learning.

Newt – the Moon Colony – Gingrich attempted to "mess with the economy, stupid" by shutting down the government in 1995-1996 over the budget, and we all fairly well know how that worked out. Therefore, unless these folks come together in a few weeks or months, I suspect the Republican Party is going to be as popular as Christine O’Donnell, “I am NOT a Witch!”

No one really knows how badly the economy will be damaged...

"No one really knows how badly the economy will be damaged"

Correct, including Obama. His doom and gloom predictions are absolutely irresponsible. He is using fear rather than logic. Only fools, like John Wilson, buy into the lies.

Greg –

While it is true that no one knows how badly the economy will be damaged, we do know that there will be damage to a very fragile economy, and it will be both unnecessary and self-inflicted. Economists are predicting 700k -750k in layoffs alone. I do not care to see our representatives playing power games with the American economy; real people are going to lose their jobs and get hurt here…

Only a total buffoon would hope to bring damage to a fragile American economy, have people lose their jobs and have many other Americans economically and perhaps physically hurt.

And yet you still voted for Obama.

Edward Willing....The United States Air Force is not mentioned in the Constitution, so it should be defunded. The Air Traffic Control System is not mentioned in the Constitution, so it should be defunded. The GPS system of satellites is not mentioned in the Constitution, so it should be defunded.

Airports are not mentioned in the Constitution, so they should be defunded. Nuclear Power is not mentioned in the Constitution, so the funding to underwrite that industry should be withdrawn immediately. The FBI is not mentioned in the Constitution, so it should be shut down immediately. The CIA is not mentioned in the Constitution, so it should be shut down immediately.

So how many F-35 joint strike fighters @ $94,000,000,000 per copy will your little corner of the universe going to be ordering? Will your hamlet be launching any GPS satellites soon? So, will your village airport be able to accomodate a 747?

Will you be underwriting the insurance for Xcel Energy's two Nuclear Power Plants? Or will you be going off the grid?

Your nihilist/libertarion clap-trap is utterly laughable. Maybe you should try reading something beside "Atlas Shrugged". Absurdity ad nauseum.

Bingo - for the most part. Only in the rarefied air of Washington is a tiny reduction from an increased budget considered a "drastic spending cut." Think family budget going up to $4000/month and cutting $20 from it. Nothing. But think threatened to have your milk or butter or gas being cut first with the $20.

BTW MLK Jr. was strictly non-partisan, though his father MLK was a Rebublican. The Party of Lincoln needs to do a better job of clearly communicating the message of hope, opportunity, and liberty for ALL people without regard to color or ethnicity.

barium -

You think?

Eric –

I think you are spot on.

Like barium, the only thing you have to do is change your messaging – do not mess with your draconian, racist, misogynistic, right-wing extremist policies – just give them a softer, more gentle message, and you will certainly fool all the minority populations in America, and you will win every single race you enter. Yes, sir, that will work… trust me…

Eric... when you learn to spell... and to separate your rants into paragraphs, few people will pay attention to you.

Nice try. Reformat it into a readable rant and perhaps people will pay attention.

Private Turd wrote:Eric... when you learn to spell... and to separate your rants into paragraphs, few people will pay attention to you.

Nice try. Reformat it into a readable rant and perhaps people will pay attention.

Proofread your work Private. DISSMISSED !

John Wilson (if that is his real name) wrote: "…do not mess with your draconian, racist, misogynistic, right-wing extremist policies – just give them a softer, more gentle message, and you will certainly fool all the minority populations in America..."

As usual John, I am going to call you on this. Show me where, in the Republican platform, in a candidates campaign, or in a rally, where a Republican said ANYTHING to imply that they were “draconian, racist, misogynistic, or right-wing extremist”!!! The left has simply taken the Conservative message, and re-imaged it to fit their needs.

Case in point: Conservatives believe that private sector job creation will be more sustainable, more productive and will impact the economy in a permanent way. Liberals believe that by taxing the rich more, they can use that money to prop up government and government supported jobs that are in reality unsustainable, impractical and have no real impact on the economy.

The only reason that Republican’s are seen as “money grubbing rich fat cats” is because YOU and the rest of the Liberal extremist keep saying they are, as your post above proves. In reality, Republican’s KNOW where jobs and wealth are created, in the private sector. Government should only exist to do those things the private sector can’t do practically or efficiently, such as defense, the court system or roads.

But go ahead and keep posting your leftist lies. More and more people are seeing the lie that is today’s Democratic party! More and more people are realizing Socialists aren’t about helping people, they are about controlling their lives! More and more people are waking up to the fact that:

“government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem”!!!
---Ronald Wilson Reagan

The Anti-Alinsky –

When Daniel Pearl was beheaded, did any American really have to state that was a draconian action? I think most of us understood that…

When the TP/GOP attempts to terminate – under the superficial guise of helping extend the life of these beneficial programs – Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, they do not announce that this is a draconian proposal… although most rational people understand the dynamic here.

When the Willard surrogate, former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu (R), called Obama ‘Lazy and detached’, ‘not cognizant of American values’, and Newt Gingrich called Obama the ‘Food Stamp President’, (both sending tons of red meat to their base) no one needed to decode these phrases and say they were race baiting. When Newt called Obama the ‘Kenyan President’, again, no one needed a dictionary to understand.

When the (R) Congress voted against the Equal Pay for Women Act, the Violence against Women Act, and 25 (R) states are introducing major restrictions and barriers to abortion and even contraception – which would eliminate or severely reduce the need for abortions – and concurrently invasive, medically unnecessary transvaginal probes, attempting to defund Planned Parenthood, no one needs an interpreter here. [Smaller, less intrusive government?]

This is the party of white, fundamentalist Christian bigots, filled with racist, misogynistic, right-wing extremist policies, and people... moderates are driven out...

The Anti-Alinsky –

"But go ahead and keep posting your leftist lies. More and more people are seeing the lie that is today’s Democratic party!"

Yes, those Democrats want to control you with bills such as these, introduced by the (R) Legislature… why, they have even morphed into TP/GOP folks to take away your FREEDOM!

“The latest version of the Indiana proposal was passed on Wednesday by the Indiana state Senate Health and Provider Services Committee. SB 371 and SB 489, if carried out, would mandate that any woman requesting the RU-486 pill — used to terminate early term pregnancies — would have to undergo a medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasound, before the pill was prescribed. The bill initially would have forced women having abortions to undergo two ultrasounds, one before and one after the procedure, but the second requirement was dropped Monday.”

http://www.policymic.com/articles/28010/indiana-ultrasound-bill-mandatory-double-ultrasound-switched-to-just-one

John Wilson (if that is your real name), there are several glaring mis-directions in your latest comments.

You wrote: “When Daniel Pearl was beheaded, did any American really have to state that was a draconian action…”
Daniel Pearl was murdered by Al-Qaeda, no the Republicans!

Also: “When the TP/GOP attempts to terminate – under the superficial guise of helping extend the life of these beneficial programs – Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, they do not announce that this is a draconian proposal…”
Today’s Republican’s are trying to find creative ways to keep these programs solvent so that future retiree’s and others can receive the benefits they were promised.

“Newt Gingrich called Obama the ‘Food Stamp President’… no one needed to decode these phrases and say they were race baiting.”
1) This was a commentary on how much worse the economy has become under B.O.
2) According to the USDA the largest group of recipients (a little less than half) are white.
(http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/outreach/pdfs/toolkit/2011/Community/Special-Populations/cultural_competency.pdf page 2)

“This is the party of white, fundamentalist Christian bigots, filled with racist, misogynistic, right-wing extremist policies, and people... moderates are driven out...”
Again, where are the facts to back this up John. This has been your M.O. for a looooong time, throw out wild, inaccurate statements then misdirect when called on it.

The Anti-Alinsky –

I have seen the “voucher program” that Lyin’ Ryan concocted and the TP/GOP proposed for the “saving of Medicare”… Thank you, however, I will pass and so will America. This is the same “saving” that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed did when he personally beheaded Daniel Pearl. Please do not attempt to “save” any other beneficial programs…

IF you would open your mind and look at what is happening to the GOP, you would see what even many Republicans see; the party has been hijacked by a bunch of extremists and wing nuts. Everyone in congress is afraid that if they deviate from the party line, they will be “Primaried” in the next election by a TP candidate even further to the right than Allen West, and he will lose his job. We will not address the internal civil war.

Look at the folks invited to speak at the mighty CPAC: Palin, Perry, Santorum, West, Newt, Willard, and Lyin’ Ryan to grace them with their vitriol, while dissing Christie, the only Republican approaching the 20th century, never mind the 21st century. And this, simply because he embraced President Obama and ripped John Boehner and the entire GOP Congress a new one over their failure to pass a bill to fund the ravages of Hurricane Sandy.

Gov. Jindal (R) called the GOP “the stupid party”, I just call it the bat crap crazy party…

John (if that is your real name),
1) Paul Ryan has said for years his Roadmap for America is a STARTING POINT for discussion. Liberals have refused to even start discussions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrltAkTf38
2) I am interested in hearing how Paul Ryan's voucher idea is a bad one.

BTW John (if that is your real name), why do you consider Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Allen West, Newt Gingrich , Mitt Romeny, and Paul Ryan a bunch of “extremists and wing nuts”?

Because they believe in smaller government?
Because they believe in following the rule of law as set out in the US Constitution and state constitutions?
Because they don’t believe in punishing the job producers in this country?
Because they don’t believe in running up huge debts?
Because they want to get people back to work?
Because they are trying to keep Social Security solvent so future retirees have the money they were promised?
Because they believe in keeping our country safe and our borders secure?

hey anti

YOUR party is doing the lying.

Eric W. Dolan ‏@EWDolan

David Gregory spars with Boehner: ‘Mr. Speaker, that’s just not true’ http://bit.ly/XBHSLf

.................The Anti-Alinsky

10:01 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

But go ahead and keep posting your leftist lies...

The Anti-Alinsky –

These folks are the very antithesis – I know you like that word, because you too are against everything – of logic, reason, fact based solutions and pragmatism. All they want to do is pray, shout, tell you who to “blame”, get your emotions all stirred up, and then, tell you to glorify some invisible man in the sky, and we are just around to pay their salary so they can.

Smaller government… is that etched in stone somewhere?

No tax increase, ever… is that etched in stone somewhere?

Government will grow with the size of the population it serves and the number and type of demands that WE THE PEOPLE require. Life is dynamic not static.

Lyin’ Ryan, while campaigning with Willard, was giving out Subway sandwiches, against the law! Of course, being a congressional representative, he always obeys the laws… (?)

IF any of these ‘extremists and wing nuts’ and the rest of the TP/GOP were serious about JOB CREATION they would have put forth JOB CREATION BILLS, they would have passed at least one of the JOB BILLS President Obama proposed, we would have people WORKING on our crumbling infrastructure…

Fact is, these folks only believe in two things, 1) Saying “NO!” to anything President Obama suggests, 2) that invisible man in the sky.

That is why they are ‘extremists and wing nuts.’

The Anti-Alinsky –

First, “The Path to Prosperity: Restoring America's Promise” was a GOP BUDGET, not a suggestion to start a conversation; it was a DEMAND made by the GOP HOUSE.

Next came, “The Path to Prosperity: A Blueprint for American Renewal.”
Lyin’ Ryan has always been a “my way or the highway” TP extremist… he is not out soliciting suggestions nor does he believe in any meaningful compromise… sort of what our government is based upon…

No one knows what the next iteration of insanity is going to come from this congressman.

I go to YouTube for entertainment, music groups performing, comedy routines, etc. I have informed you before that I do not go to YOUR “suggested” YouTube sites for proof, and yet you persist… learning impaired?

IF you are sincerely interested in Lyin’ Ryan’s “Voucher Program” then I suggest that you read it, and inform me of all the wonderful things it will bring to the middle class.
I do not want any Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security “privatized” and given to Wall Street to cash in on. I do not want a one-size-fits-all Voucher, which is static, while inflation eats up all of its value. Do you want to go out on the healthcare market, when you are 75-years old and attempt to find someone who will give you meaningful coverage? Would you like to try that at 60-years?

I think we have covered about 90% of these issues previously.

morninmist, the problem wasn’t with the sequester, the problem is with B.O. wanting to raise taxes AGAIN. House Republicans gave to increased taxes on the fiscal cliff, then B.O. started demanding they increase taxes again to get avoid the sequester.

Speaking of lies, see if you can determine who told what lie in the list below:

-“The sequester is ... something that Congress has proposed.”
-Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
-“Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
-”My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
-”I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
-“Jobs Bill Paid for””
-“USA producing more oil than ever before”
-“We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.”
-“The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.”
-“ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax”
-“We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.”
-“The Health Care Package will pay for itself.”
-”I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
-“Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term”
-“Health Care deals will be covered on C-span”
-“No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus”
-“I’ll get rid of earmarks”
-“When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.”

John (if that is your real name), Medicare Advantage is already working as a voucher program at a lower cost with identical coverage.
(http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-08-19/opinions/35494105_1_medicare-advantage-voucher-cost-savings )

There are advantages to privatizing a part of Social Security as well:
The money is under the control of the feds, and while conceptually I have earned and been promised those benefits, they can change the rules anytime they want.

Social Security is going insolvent and will be paying fewer benefits over time.

Privatized accounts would belong to the owner, not the feds.

If the owner dies, they can pass the money onto whomever they feel like. The way it is now, the feds basically reap the financial benefits if they die earlier.

The private funds would be earning money, not wasting away in fake government notes

Even if someone invested in a risky venture (which would require poor govt oversite), they still have the govt controlled portion to fall back on.

Maybe this will help explain it for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_YIqufhbNo

The Anti-Alinsky -

The GOP has dedicated itself to killing Social Security since it became law in 1935; they are diametrically and ideologically opposed to any social assistance program. All they have done through the years is nibble away at and attempt to defund these. Every few years another devious subterfuge arises whereby these programs can be “saved.”

Had any of these measures, including the “Voucher Program” (premium assistance) been in effect in 2008, not only would the middle class have lost most of their retirement investment portfolios – as they were – but all of these programs would have also been dead.

I have a 54-year old friend who underwent a successful heart/lung transplant 4-years ago, and now pay $2k per month for antirejection drugs. You might understand that he runs his own company and is not lusting after a “Voucher Program.” [The Medicare Advantage plan that he was under, was discontinued in his area for 3-years in a row, by three completely different insurance carriers.]

You are focusing on the costs/accounting aspects only; I am focusing upon the real world, personal affects upon people subjected to your accounting ledger…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/10/25/how-insurers-could-game-medicare-vouchers/

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/voucherizing-medicare/

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/health-care-expert-changes-mind-vouchers-program

HIRSP

Craig -

Important Notice re: HIRSP Federal Applications.

Effective March 2, 2013 the HIRSP Federal Plan can no longer accept new applications due to Federal budget constraints. Any new HIRSP Federal Plan applications MUST be received by midnight on March 1, 2013 to be considered for coverage. This enrollment freeze DOES NOT impact the HIRSP state plans. The HIRSP state plans will continue to enroll new members. Existing HIRSP and HIRSP Federal Plan members are not affected by this change and their coverage continues to be in effect. Please contact us at (888) 253-2698 or email at HIRSPweb@wpsic.com with questions.

http://hirsp.org/about/

There are also 187 people currently on a waiting list in Wisconsin.

You must be 6 months w/out any insurance
WI resident
Provide proof of an "uninsurable" Pre-existing condition
www.wpsic.com

GOOD LUCK!

John- I am aware of the red tape involved with HIRSP, just mentioned it is an option to your friend....as a last resort.
I find it hypocritical that insurance companies and society will spend millions to save a life by doing the transplant, then refuse the coverage for anti rejection therapy.
Worse yet, is the poor fellow who never gets a donor.
People please sign the donor card!

Craig -

Fortunately, for my friend, he has more than enough money to cover these drug costs; most of the people in America do not.

"I find it hypocritical that insurance companies and society will spend millions to save a life by doing the transplant, then refuse the coverage for anti-rejection therapy."

I would hasten to add that you should get use to this type of duplicity; it happens every day, in an attempt to reap more and more profits for the insurance companies. These insurance companies do not have a moral compass or much use for humanity, other than to get your healthcare premium money. They worship numbers, the accounting ledger, profits and if you become a net financial loser for their accounting department, they will use whatever duplicity, legal loophole and more, that they can find to disqualify you, put a cap on your coverage or even terminate the plan in your area, and then offer you a new one for more money.

That is why you see both "Mandatory Arbitration" clauses in all insurance policies; additionally, the phrase, "we reserve the right to change, modify drug formulary provisions, etc., at our discretion."

America's Healthcare Insurance Industry is all about the money, growing, and increasing profits annually.

not sure why, but my comment below was posted on Monday and has been in pending limbo ever since:

John Wilson (if that is his real name) wrote: “The GOP has dedicated itself to killing Social Security since it became law in 1935…Every few years another devious subterfuge arises whereby these programs can be “saved.””
That was true in the early years since it is a government intrusion and tax on the populace. Now that we have had people paying into it for almost 80 years, Conservatives like Paul Ryan are trying to find a way to save it. Right now it is set up as the world’s largest Ponzi scheme, where those collecting right now will gain the most, while the rest of us will be lucky to get anything. Every few years, a Conservative offers up an idea to fix it as a debate, and every time Liberals like you decide they would rather drive the program into the ground than give an inch to reason and logic!!!

as was this one:

John Wilson (if that is his real name) wrote: “Had any of these measures, including the “Voucher Program” (premium assistance) been in effect in 2008, not only would the middle class have lost most of their retirement investment portfolios – as they were – but all of these programs would have also been dead.”
That is totally false John. First, the Dow is reaching new records all the time right now, so investments have bounced back. Second, many people, myself included, didn’t bury my head in the sand like you did. We moved our money to safer investments, like ones that would be approved by whatever regulatory board would approve of. While you were short sighted enough to listen to Barney Frank and Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, I gained on my portfolio. Not alot, but it sure beats losing money!!!

and this one:

Finally, John wrote: “You are focusing on the costs/accounting aspects only; I am focusing upon the real world, personal affects upon people subjected to your accounting ledger…”
Here’s a real world affect for you. How are the people that are currently on entitlement programs going to get their money when the government is completely out? How are future retirees going to live when ALL of their contributions to Social Security and Medicare have been spent on today’s retirees? How are our children going to pay for the debt Barack Hussein Obama keeps piling on? We currently spend $220 BILLION on debt payments every year. What are we going to do when it goes up to a TRILLION.

Pull your head out John. You are the fiscally irresponsible one!!!

The Anti-Alinsky –

First of all, even given all your drivel and fear mongering, you simply cannot cut your way to prosperity.

Second, every time you cut something you create more unemployment, more people that have to be paid unemployment, more people who will lose their Healthcare, more families that are going to end in violence, dysfunction and divorce. What part of taking revenue-producing taxpayers out of the economy and putting them into positions of recipients of government benefits don’t you understand?

These folks do not make anything – products or services – so the GDP goes further down.

You folks just don’t seem to get the fact that the deficit is a long-term 10-12-year issue; the EMERGENCY issue NOW, until the economy gets healthy and is growing 3 -4%, is JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

As usual though, you self-proclaimed economists and “job creators” (?) have the entire picture backassward…

The Anti-Alinsky –

Wall Street, the banks, AIG and most of all our financial institutions would not exist today were it not for TARP and further stimulus by the government; the government was and is only concerned with the financial institutions, not your investment portfolio or mine.

Again, the “Voucher Program” (premium assistance), had it existed at that time, would have been toast…

Wall Street broke ONE record and you go orgasmic on us… great!

If you watch Wall Street , the Dow, you see that it is constantly changing from second to second; now that may entertain you, however, I am interested in long term trends… the Dow will recede and grow, as long as it stays in the 14,000’s or close to that I am not concerned.

Today might be a good time to invest, whether that is happening on a large scale at this time is debatable; where the Dow will go in the coming months will not be determined by your hyperbole.

The Anti-Alinsky –

Conservatives, like Lyin’ Ryan, are not attempting to “save” any entitlement program; and all you TP/GOP folks just love to channel “our children” in an inane attempt to appeal to our emotions, because your policies just do not cut it.

Lyin’ Ryan is busy building a dangerous subterfuges, comparable to RIGHT TO WORK. The words have a nice ring, however, in practice, the net effect is the middle class works for less. It is the same with the “Voucher Program” – currently being revised to be even more draconian - (premium assistance). As the plan moves forward it becomes more and more unsustainable, as the vouchers do not keep up with inflation or actual medical costs. At that point, Lyin’ Ryan and the TP/GOP state that they did their best to “save” it, but it could not be “saved” so now we have to privatize the entire system.

That’s all this is, and nothing more… a long, painful trip to privatization…

The Anti-Alinsky –

You cannot put 12M+ people on unemployment and expect to have a growing prosperous economy – especially when you are now paying them unemployment compensation – picking up Healthcare insurance costs, feeding their children and giving them subsidized housing. They are not contributing to the GDP and they are draining government benefits, which we all pay for. [That seems like a double hit to both government spending and GDP growth.] TP/GOP cut spending mantra...

Here is a shock for you: we live in a “Consumer Driven Economy.” The consumer demanding goods and services drives this “Consumer Driven Economy”. When the consumer has money they spend it; when your Faux “job creators” have money, they bank it, offshore it, invest it, and sit back and collect interest on it; they are content to live off of the interest on those investments. The true JOB CREATORS are the CONSUMERS.

President Clinton raised taxes – amazingly, the world did not end – and he created over 12-million jobs in 8-years.

I have known a few thick ideological people in my life – most of them lived on YouTube too – and I have to confess that you are now in my top five.

Je suis fait répondant aux mêmes questions en forme différente de vous.

John Wilson (if that is his real name) wrote: “You cannot put 12M+ people on unemployment and expect to have a growing prosperous economy...”

Exactly the point Johnny. We need to get them back to work. Isn’t it better to give an employer a $10,000 tax credit (just an example) to hire one person for a year rather than pay $20,000 in unemployment PLUS Obama-care PLUS the Obama-phone PLUS Obama-bucks PLUS…

President Clinton raised taxes – amazingly, the world did not end – and he created over 12-million jobs in 8-years.

Clinton didn’t create 12 million jobs, Obama did.
Ok, kidding aside, the job growth was fueled by the dot-com craze, the Y2K scare, the housing bubble as well as other factors. Clinton just happened to be in a good position economically at the time. Of course, look what happened at the end of his presidency.

Soy escribir en otros idiomas también idiota!

The Anti-Alinsky –

Vous ne pouvez pas même écrire en anglais !

No, morninmist - didn't you get the memo? it's actually 170 MILLION jobs lost! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gnw-d46Fgk
Plus, the trillionaires and their evil rich allies will be able to take over the USA! It's apocalyptic! Run for the bomb shelters!!! The world is ending!!!

Moronist, have you driven through a reservation in WI lately? If you did you would have noticed that WI reservations look like a movie set from 'Night of The Living Dead.' A mine would be an improvement to any native American reservation in WI.

You're right, morninmist - the evil rich and their vile business allies want to wipe out all of the pristine, beautiful Wisconsin tundra and strip mine to help fatten their wallets. And this will bankrupt Wisconsin and all of its people as a result! Horrible! We should impeach Gov. Walker and his evil allies in the legislature!!

Absolutely! The evil Republicans and their vile allies (mostly filthy rich Big Business and Big Oil) are TRYING to run our country into the ground by letting the horrible, drastic 1% cut to go through! How terrible! It would be as terrible as increasing a family budget up to $4000 per month and cutting $20 out. Wow! Unbelievable and draconian!!

barium: Nice analogy.
You should have mentioned the family with the $4000 per month budget only earns $2200.
THAT should put things in perspective for poor old Misty.

I like this source for facts:

@Progress2day Promise Broken: @GovWalker Finally Acknowledges 250K Jobs Failure; Refuses Responsibility: wisdems.org/news/press/vie… #wiunion

How many Millions were spent on street tanks to be used against American citizens?
Why did the Fed buy 2 BILLION hollow point bullets when they usually buy 1.8 Million?
Why are the new targets no longer black and white outlines, but color pictures of American people?
Why are signs stating Martial Law is in effect being distributed?
Does that get covered by your news source Misty?

How about the drone program Misty?
http://rt.com/usa/dhs-drones-eavesdrop-americans-811/

YUP!

....RedState editor Erick Erickson argued last week that conservative outlets have been "failing to advance ideas and stories" beyond their ideological borders. "The echo in the chamber has gotten so loud it is not well understood outside the echo chamber in the mainstream press and in the public," Erickson wrote. "It translates only as anger and noise, neither of which are conducive to the art of persuasion.".....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/conservative-media_n_2812517.html?ir=Media

NOPE
Graham crackers and kool aid do not taste very good.

I know barium, but it is too much funny putting the verbal smack down on a flaming Liberal that wants us to believe he was an Eagle Scout and Mensa.

Sequestration Furlough Notices Go Out To Customs And Border Agents http://huff.to/13I9EKY via @HuffPostPol