Village President Talks Main Street: 'There Seems to Be Confusion'
After last week's public forum, Village President Greg Goetz addresses the Main Street reconstruction project, explaining why the project must be done, and how public input has just begun.
The latest comments have been tallied after last week's public forum concerning roundabouts on Main Street, but Sussex Village President Greg Goetz thinks some residents may be confused.
Goetz read a prepared statement during Tuesday night’s Village Board meeting addressing some of the comments from the forum, and in his own words explained why this project needs to be completed.
In addition, Goetz said the time for public input has just begun.
“The Village of Sussex has received a lot of feedback over the past several weeks about the Main Street project, and I am glad we have heard so many thoughts and comments,” Goetz said. “This conversation has illustrated the broad and varied passion for ideas that exists in the community, but at the same time has highlighted some confusion about this project, its purpose and goals.”
Goetz went on to explain why the reconstruction project isn’t about vanity, but necessity. He outlined that the road was initially designed in 1959 for a population of less than 1,000 people, and although it was topped with asphalt in 2000, it only expanded the road’s life by 15 years.
“The concerns that... this was a done deal are so unfortunate because they are just wrong.”
“A lot has changed sine then and growth will continue,” Goetz said. “Sussex alone will grow by another 33 to 50 percent from its current population over the next two decades, and the impacts from that growth are just starting to show up as frustrations amongst drivers and pedestrians on Main Street.”
The road needs to be reconstructed within the next five years, according to Goetz, and this will be something the village isn’t expecting to do for another 50 years or more.
And there is a long list of issues that need to be addressed:
- The bridge near Silver Spring Drive and Main Street needs to be replaced.
- The DNR is requiring Spring Creek be reopened by M&M Restaurant.
- Utilities up and down the street need to be repaired.
- The actual road is 53 years old and needs a new surface.
- Stormwater management needs to be evaluated because it’s currently lacking.
- The floodplain needs to be adjusted to help local businesses and landowners who were impacted by FEMA’s new floodplain maps.
- Traffic needs to be evaluated on how it will flow for possibly the next 50 years.
- Lastly, Goetz says Sussex cannot miss an opportunity to help grow the vitality of the central core of the village.
Goetz says the village has been collecting comments and information since day one, first by collecting input on what residents didn’t like about Main Street, followed by input at Springfest, and again during last week’s meeting.
“Up to this point the Village Board has not discussed the concepts in any detail because we did not want to prejudice the public’s input process,” said Goetz. “The concerns that were raised by many residents at the Main Street meeting that this was a done deal are so unfortunate because they are just wrong.”
The Village Board will discuss the residents’ comments for the first time during the May 15 public meeting, although details of the meeting have not been finalized. While Goetz said the board wouldn’t be making any major decisions that night, the project’s design consultants will be there to answer their questions.
Goetz said he hopes the explanation cleared up any confusion or lack of communication with the village. This is not a done deal...
After that meeting, another public forum to gather citizen comments will be held.
“Ultimately, the Village Board will select a road and streetscape design later this year which may include elements of various concepts,” Goetz said. “The Village Board will make that decision based on the comments from the public, how the plans accomplish goals of the community, and the cost factors associated with the plan elements.”
In closing, Goetz said he hopes the explanation cleared up any confusion or lack of communication with the village. This is not a done deal, and he says the Village Board is still open to many concepts and ideas the project engineers and residents bring forward.
Common sense sussex
10:20 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Mr. Goetz, I think you might be the one along with serveral of the board members that have lost reality here. First, let me say when the road was redone in 2000, if they would have listened to the public works staff, this would not be an issue now on the condition of the road. Second why keep on investing on the downtown? I have been a long time village resident and do not see this ever coming back and it was a long long time ago that there was anything like a downtown. It is not going to come back anymore. Please look at what we currently have and maintain it only. There were other ways of working the traffic through main street. One was clover drive but instead, stop signs are now put up at every intersection. Completely not thinking this through and how it will cause great loss to the residents of main street is not right by you and the members of your board who support this plan. But wait you signed the recall petition so you and the others that signed the petition are good at spending money without thinking the whole process through and do not care who it hurts. So I please ask you to use some common sense on this issue and start focusing on what you are going to do help the west end of town and keep the current business's here and help bring new ones in. I keep seeing this downtown plan but what about the westend plan? Do you have one?
Pete
8:08 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
There is the arrogant misconception by the village board that the public is confused about the downtown redevelopment plan. How much have the plans and design cost so far? You are proceeding along this path. Quit try to smoke screen the fact that this is a done deal. If the last reconstuction of main street was asphalt paving, why is it concrete. More smoke! Does your plan include buying the residencial homes along Main Street? Where is the room going to come from for the road expansion by 10'? Once you put your round about in at village hall, and piggly Wiggly cant get deliveries what will be left in the central core of the village? Some auto rpair shops and a pizza place. Great downtown! I guess we have to do the mandated items on your list. If the DNR requires opening up the creek is there any stae money to pay for this? Why do we have to prepare Main street for the next 50 years? Is it so this village board can have their legacy?
One last thought, How angry is the village board going to be when the recall of Scott Walker fails? And will that push them to disregard common sense and proceed with their arrogant, foolish, wasteful downtown plan
Will Silvers
8:35 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Wow, bringing political views into the discussion right away. We would be better served to discuss the merits of main street redevelopment and Goetz's statements than any board member's views on Walker.
Common sense sussex
9:02 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
The politcal view is the the few board memebers are not representing the people of the village and we know why now since they do not have the same beliefs as the village residents.I have been hearing about the redevelopment for many of years this goes way back and nothing is really moving forward with any of the plans. I do not know if you have been around and know the history of this proposed redevelopment of downtown it is a complete waste of taxpayers money. If you look at what they are spending on these plans you will wonder what the board and staff is thinking. From what I recall these plans are costing around $600,000.00 and what do we get out of this? Is this money well spent? I have been a long time resident and lived on main street so I know where the concerns are with the residents of main street as well.
Will Silvers
10:24 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I've lived in Sussex for 6 years now, and am directly affected by the main street plans - in 2 of them, I loose my house/garage :(
I don't disagree with some of the items like buried electrical cables, and maybe even one roundabout, but with 3 roundabouts in a short span and the inherit dislike for them the residents of the area are expressing, I can't see it helping downtown at all.
Will Silvers
8:38 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I do hope they have enought room for the May 15th meeting. I suspect there will be LOTS of people who are upset that the engineers and board still do not seem to be listening to them. Basically what I heard is him stating is that 'we (the public) don't know what we want or what's good for us, so he and the almighty board will decide, but we can comment if it makes us feel better.'
Andy Ambrosius
8:52 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I talked with Goetz at the meeting last night, and he thinks having it at Hamilton might be the best bet considering the large crowd.
Pete
11:07 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
What's happening with the cannery property? Isn't that a big part of the development plan? The village board should look into what they can do to help that along rather that worry about 3-4 hours a day of traffic congestion. I don't believe it is even that long. I have lived in the village for almost 40 years and seen it grow from a "biker" town to what it is today. I really can't say that this village board has the best interest of the residence in mind with all their downtown plans. The administration under the direction of Mike Knapp was spend crazy as well. The bump outs at the library are a good example. We sent the money to put them in then after the fact spent more money to make the smaller. I see this board going down the same road with the round about idea. After they are put in is the next board going to tear them out and put stop and go lights back in? It is a sad state of affairs.
Andy Ambrosius
11:21 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
The Cannery property is really complicated, Pete, but I think the village and developer are on the verge of getting things approved. The developer of that property won't start construction until the Bugline (which runs right through the property) is relocated. One-eighth of an acre needs to be moved to develop on the land.
Because the Bugline is a federally funded trail, they need permission from the feds to move the trail. I believe they received permission/approval, but now they're in negotiations to purchase neighboring land to relocate the trail off the Cannery property.
Whenever I ask the village administrator if anything new has developed, he says its a touchy topic at the time because of property values, negotiations with neighboring landowners, etc. HOWEVER, I think that means they're getting close! I can taste it!
Mike B
1:23 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I somewhat agree that the over-hyping of revitalizing "Downtown Sussex". What is downtown Sussex? Once you get passed Piggly Wiggly, there's some museum or something, a couple mechanics, Tony Maroni's pizza place, and.... hmm. That's about it. Once past Maple it's all office type buildings and more houses. Nothing that is going to bring people in to "Downtown Sussex".
The way people talk about "Downtown Sussex" you'd think there were dozens of little stores and things that need more business and it's a get place to go shopping. That couldn't be further from the truth. There is some retail on the far east end (Piggly Wiggly and then at Sports Bar Lane) and then there is some on the far west end in the strip mall by Ace and then again by Pick n Save. In between is nothing to attract anyone to anything.
Anyway, aside from that. As evidenced by the 6:00 shift of the meeting last week, lots of people are very confused about a number of things. People there were going off about how roundabouts are always a bad idea and expanding the road is awful and were basically blaming the engineers for ruining Sussex. The fact is, nothing has been decided yet. The engineers were simply asked to provide some options, so they did. The engineers are not Pro roundabouts or Anti roundabouts, they are just doing their job and providing options for people to look at and comment on. I believe that's what he means when he says it's not a "done deal".
Andy Ambrosius
2:27 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Thank you, Mike, for reading my mind! Everyone is getting so worked up when, in reality, those were just ideas. The design team has to start somewhere, right? Roundabouts were on ONE of the multiple designs, and everyone was acting like they were being built tomorrow. Not the case, however, it's good that people showed as much disinterest as they did. Now the Village Board can see how residents are feeling about the proposals.
And I still think "downtown Sussex" is an important factor to think about. Although it's not very vibrant right now, why not use this opportunity to just fix it up? The only thing it'll do is look better and attract a few more possible restaurants and shops. I think everyone needs to understand that they're fixing and designing this road for a future population that is hard to anticipate.
Joseph
2:57 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
With roundabouts, there are often more accidents. More accidents means more tickets. Gotta love backdoor taxes.
http://alerts.motorists.org/nma-e-newsletter-114-roundabouts-love-em-or-h
http://alerts.motorists.org/nma-e-newsletter-115-roundabout-feedback
Pete
8:18 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I need to correct an earlier comment and apologize to Mr. Goetz. main street is asphalt not concrete
Andy Ambrosius
9:16 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Nice of you to come back and correct yourself. Not all commenters are like this. :) Thanks, Pete!
Sparky
9:51 am on Saturday, April 28, 2012
As I read through the comments posted on this subject I struggle to understand all of the negative emotions. The Sussex Village Board is being chastised for being transparent and trying to include the Communinity in their discussions and decision making process. The bottom line is that the Board is trying to help the Village prepare for the inevitable growth which will happen in the future. It seems to me that some of the negative folks posting comments should wander out of Sussex every once in a while and take a look at how other successful and growing communities are addressing both residential and commercial growth. The comments about the West end of Sussex are clearly biased and baseless, the West end of the Village has excellent access from Main and from 164, the real challenge is getting traffic to traverse Main Street and visit our businesses and promote future growth. That is exactly the challenge that our Village Officials are trying to help address.
Enough of the negativity, if you have suggestions that will help Sussex grow, bring them forward, that is what the Board is asking for. Change is heathy and is needed to continue to move Villages forward. I would suggest that anyone who has a negative comment to post should try to balance that with some kind of a solution. Everyone can just complain, that is easy and takes little effort, and it's pretty evident in many of the early posts. Try being constructive and help move Sussex forward positively.
Joseph
2:56 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Roundabouts are fine for those that know how to use them. The problem is, most people don't know how to use them. When there is heavy traffic, the circle is actually slower than a 4 way lighted intersection. People want to point that Europe has lots of them, but what they do not know is, they are getting rid of many of them in favor of lights. Roundabouts cannot be made safe for bicyclists either: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17618659. Here is a small survey in CO: http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2010/03/20/news/01top_03-20-10.txt.
Tony
12:29 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Remember to vote out fake conservatives Goetz and Dietrich during the next election cycle. They signed the Walker recall.
Al Schimmer
8:46 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
They signed the recall ! They won't get my vote again those phoneys !