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Sen. Ron Johnson, Congressman Paul Ryan to Rally in Waukesha County Sunday

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus also will take part event at GOP campaign headquarters in Waukesha.

 

Three key Republican leaders from Wisconsin will stop in Waukesha on Sunday as part of the national “We Did Build This” bus tour spearheaded by the campaign of GOP presidential candidate Matt Romney.

U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson and Reince Priebus, a Wisconsinite who is chairman the Republican National Committee, will headline a rally at 3:30 p.m. at the GOP Victory Center, 1701 Pearl St.

The stop is part of Romney's nationwide effort to position President Barack Obama as anti-business for a comment he made this month at a campaign event in Virginia.

“If you've got a business — you didn't build that," the Democratic president said. "Someone else made that happen."

On Wednesday, state Sen. Alberta Darling joined local business owners at an event at the Waukesha headquarters in which she called the president's comments “a real kick in the gut” to hardworking business owners and the middle class.

Johnson, Priebus and U.S. Reps. Reid Ribble and Tom Petri will hold a similar rally Sunday morning in Green Bay; and Johnson and Ryan will appear together at an evening event in Janesville.

Related Topics: Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Reince Priebus, Republican Party of Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, Tom Petri, and We Did Build This

kimikaw

3:22 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Seriously, I understand the Republicans taking the Presidents quote (where "that" was referring to roads and bridges) out of context, but saddened that the Patch doesn't at least acknowledge the full context of the quote. For those that prefer the context over the misrepresentation of what he said.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires."

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The Anti-Alinsky

9:56 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Nothing was taken out of context kimikaw. Grammatically, roads and bridges are plural and are referred to as "those" not "that". In addition, the pronoun "that" refers to the last noun used, in this case "a business". Finally, the sentence is so poorly worded and confusion that the only logical conclusion is that Barack Hussein Obama is setting the ground game for a major redistribution of wealth.

Reading the entire quote only makes it worse. One great example:
"Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. "
Wrong. The internet started as a rapid means to allow researchers and military personnel to communicate with each other. Tim Berners-Lee then developed HTML and the World Wide Web to allow better dissemination of information.

It was the business community that came up with ways to make money. Most of the money put into the internet since it's inception has come from private businesses.

It is time to wake up and smell the coffee. Barack Hussein Obama's only true goal is take from those that have achieved, and give to those that haven't even tried!

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Craig

10:33 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

kimikaw: Are you new to Patch?
Just three days ago there was a story that covered Oblaba's speach, and his dig at small businesses.
http://menomoneefalls.patch.com/articles/sen-alberta-darling-smal-business-owners-blast-obama

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Bernard Forand

12:02 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Anti ; As usual, off in La, La land once again. What the president was eluding to; That the infrastructure of the nation is what produced the soil that various cronies acquired their wealth. Their education, talents, Highways’ and by ways, airports and so and so on and so on and so on. Was produced by the laborer’s abilities and their productions. All of us in a united effort. The dispersal of the wealth that is produced by the productivity of the laborer’s requires an intelligent dispersal and investment back to the laborer’s. This would keep the system in continuous replenishment to advance our abilities to progress and compete on the Liberal Free Trade Markets of the world.
Now all of these establishments used our democracy’s infrastructures to achieve those discoveries. Anti, You REALLY need to get some education!


Now why can I not know who paid for this carnage of democracy?
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy! Winston Churchill

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Bernard Forand

12:14 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Greg: your source is less than a creditable intelligent article. Obama has led the initiatives for small businesses from day one. As your PARTY FIRST of no, no, no leadership sought to destroy them. No Jobs Bill from your Republican House after two years unless you want to count the recent window dressing of their 33 bills on recall health care and 30 jobs bill that is not jobs at all.!Just window dressing for small minded idiots like you. Small buisnesses are growing in spite of all the republican obstructions. Your so called desire for president, Mittens, is not even in favor with his owb party.

Mr. Kissinger, a former Republican secretary of state, remains on the sidelines. The reason, according to several Republicans familiar with the matter: concerns about Mr. Romney’s aggressive statements on trade policy toward China, a keen issue for Mr. Kissinger, who helped reopen relations with China and who later, as a consultant, has had clients with significant interests there.
As Republican leaders fell in behind Mr. Romney this spring, many members of the party’s foreign policy establishment have been more muted. Reluctance by this group to come forward for Mr. Romney more quickly reflects an unease over some of his positions, including his hard line on Russia and opposition to a new missile treaty.

http://youtu.be/ceTWKfnjeSs Republicans calling for Romney’s tax returns

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The Anti-Alinsky

3:28 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Bernie, you are just repeating the Obama talking points again.

ANY way you read it, Obama is trying to take credit away from people who worked hard to build a successful business, and giving it to the government. He is just setting the stage for a HUGE tax increase on the rich. I feel the rich need to pay their fair share, but believe they already do for the most part. WE NEED TO STOP SPENDING SO MUCH.

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Bernard Forand

6:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

ANTI; Where were you when the real abusive spending was going on? $Trillions upon $Trillions for the republican 2 nine year wars they shoved down our throats and not to mention the Billions and Billions on bail out their buddies on Wall Street at the cost of Main Street real estate. 750,000 per month of increase to unemployment, 9% retraction to GDP. Where were you? Now that we have Obama who has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/ You need to get out of your foxy den and observe reality for a change. Want to Know one of the leaks still going on that the republicans and 4 democrats just filibustered to have us continue to provide welfare to the cronyism of our nation. Record producing profiting oil companies that paid no taxes, received $ Millions in tax returns each and Demand subsides [welfare] into the $ billions. Vote was 57 to cut welfare 41 to keep welfare! Your Senator voted to keep welfare just as he votes to not tax the elite.
You feel sorry for poor little rich boy? At last count they have outsourced in their financing , a total of $ 23 trillion. No taxes on that. Mitt only pays taxes on his capital gains which is at 14%. 2010 he paid 13.9% while Main Street is at 30% Keep in mind Mittens paid only on the monies he could not hide from the IRS. WAKE UP LADDIE!

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:43 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Bernie, you have stayed off topic. Why are you equating the Bush deficits (during a time of war) with Barack Hussein Obama's obvious attempt to take Trillions more away from hard working American taxpayers? The Bush excuse is getting old. He has not been in office for 3 1/2 years (notice the proper use of a pronoun, not only by referring to the last noun used, but using the correct one as well).

Bush s gone. Barack Hussein Obama has to stand on his own record, and it is a pretty poor one at that!

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Bernard Forand

6:54 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

ANTI: It is clear you are not reading the comments you are replying to. Greatest expenditures’ to GDP has, since 1970 been to the republican party. Your accusations that Obama is a spending us into debt is absurd as your inability to seeing the republicans obstructing every effort that Obama has made to reignite a dead economy that the republicans handed him.
Obama has done well with the LITTLE that he had to work with. Saving thousands of manufacturing jobs. That the republicans were trying to shove them under the bus from day one. Notice Obama did not give them money. A loan that has already been paid with interest as well as saving our auto industries and the supporting orbiting manufacturers.
Now observe republican Eric Cantor has a tea party and raises $300 Million and GIVES it to the Avondale shipyards to SHUT DOWN and fire 5,000 employees in Avondale Alabama. Now how would you define expenditures’ in this scenario. Now all manufacturing jobs and supporting manufacturers out to unemployment. Who pays for that tab? Keep in mind the foreclosures’ to follow and lost credits and families and communities. Who pays for that!?!?!
You actually think people are going to buy the idea that Millioniares that pay 14% on their taxes is suffucent as Main Street pays 30%?? Give me a break you can't be that naieve.

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:35 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

Bernie, I'm reading all your comments, I'm just not responding to the inaccurate an inane ones. For example:
"Greatest expenditures’ to GDP has, since 1970 been to the republican party..." This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Everyone contributes to the Gross Domestic Product, you, me, Hoffa and even $$andNonsense. Perhaps you are referring to the national debt. If so, how do you lay the blame on Republican's when they only controlled both houses of Congress and the White House in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006? During that same period you referenced (1970 to present), the Democrats controlled the same three 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1993, 1994, 2009 and 2010. Clearly plenty of blame can be laid on the Democrats doorstep.

"Your accusations that Obama is a spending us into debt is absurd ..." National debt the day Bush left office: $10.626 trillion, As of midnight last night: $15.938 trillion. An increase of $5.312 trillion, or 49%. And that's just 3 1/2 years of Barrack Hussein Obama, while we had 8 years of Bush, during wartime.

..."Saving thousands of manufacturing jobs..." Current unemployment rate: 8.3%. And that's not counting workers that have left the workforce. True unemployment is 11%+, depending on the sorce.

"Now observe republican Eric Cantor ... raises $300 Million and GIVES it ... to SHUT DOWN and fire 5,000 employees in Avondale Alabama." Not sure what to say about this one. Can you provide your DailyKos link?

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:35 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

"... Millioniares that pay 14% on their taxes is suffucent as Main Street pays 30%..." again, no idea where you pulled this from. To get into the 28% tax rate, you would currently need to make $85,000 to $217,450, depending on your filing status. The top rate is 35%. How some people pay only 14% depends on what they have invested in (ie. tax free municipal bonds).

Bernie, quit with the Liberal talking points. They haven't worked for years and they are getting worse!

Nuitari

7:16 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012

I'm going to surprise everyone and defend our incompetent president for once...somewhat. I think I know what he was trying to say, because our next president, Romney said it better in his response.

Clearly, Obama truly believes that one can not eat, sleep, or start a business without government holding their hand. That is why this hack must go. Enough of us hard workers funding his lazy people.

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Bernard Forand

11:50 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Nitira As usual off in La, La land once again. What the president was eluding to; That the infrastructure of the nation is what produced the soil that various cronies acquired their wealth. Their education, talents, Highways’ and by ways, airports and so and so on and so on and so on. Was produced by the laborer’s abilities and their productions. All of us in a united effort. The dispersal of the wealth that is produced by the productivity of the laborer’s requires an intelligent dispersal and investment back to the laborer’s. This would keep the system in continuous replenishment to advance our abilities to progress and compete on the Liberal Free Trade Markets of the world.


Now why can I not know who paid for this carnage of democracy?
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy! Winston Churchill

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:40 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

From Bernie:
"That the infrastructure of the nation is what produced the soil that various cronies acquired their wealth. Their education, talents, Highways’ and by ways, airports and so and so on and so on and so on. Was produced by the laborer’s abilities and their productions. All of us in a united effort. The dispersal of the wealth that is produced by the productivity of the laborer’s requires an intelligent dispersal and investment back to the laborer’s."
Had you not placed your Socialist spin on it, that statement would have been fairly accurate. Indeed, it is business and that benefits the most from our publicly funded infra-structure, but it is also business that has paid the most to build that infra-structure. Ever been through the Illinois Tollway? Have you noticed that Semis pay more to pass through the tollbooth? That is because they put more wear and tear on the road. The higher toll is their portion to build and maintain the highway system. Here in Wisconsin, we do it through a gasoline sales tax, one of the highest in the nation.

Do you use the sewer system? We pay for that through municipal fees.
Like Police and Fire protection? We pay for that through property taxes.
Like electricity? We pay for that with ...Oh wait, that's another business.

The point Bernie, is that business did indeed help create our infrastructure, through taxes and fees.

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Bernard Forand

6:30 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

ANTI; Once again you twist a squirm. Deliberately avoiding the issue. You failed to answer the portions of laborers productivity that generate the wealth that the 20% of our populace enjoyed in its harvesting of that discrepancy amounts to since 1970 laborer’s in the sharing of that increase has remained flat as to the elitist they harvested over 200% increase in their wealth. Returns on laborers productivity has not been returned into the industries of its laborers proportionally. Contributing to the decline in consumers and the falling of the markets as there is less laborers/consumers to purchase products.
I’ll try to simplify for you. 2 guys buy a truck to service their businesses. Owner [A] 10% of the time and wear and tear. [B] has it 90% of time and wear and time. Now time to pay. [A] says debt is 10% of the total cost of trucks operation. [B] disagrees and says that 85% is what [A] owes to the vehicle. [B] maintains his 15% is a far greater contribution in wealth than [A’s] contribution of 10% … Now would you buy that and believe what [B] is trying to cheat you out of?? If you do OH Baby have I got a deal for you…

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:49 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

Bernie, could you repeat that in English? And before you hit the bottle. You made NO sense at all.

You try to point to labor as the source of wealth creation. That would be true if the laborers commissioned the job that created the wealth. For example, a bricklayer finishes a job for a builder. The bricklayer has added value to that home. The question is, would that exterior been built if the builder wasn't willing to pay the brick layer. Of course not, therefore, while the bricklayer provided the labor, it was the builder that created the wealth.

Your example a business buying a truck is feeble at best. Where in the real world would you come up with an example like that? Stop the phony intellectualism, it isn't working for you.

Bernard Forand

7:19 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

ANTI; YOU miss the point once again. Your bricklayer’s value to the property was a contribution by both parties. Redistribution of the productivity [wealth] of that property to a more equitable level may be required.
For example; Movie Stars, Baseball players, Singers, and so forth . They get together with a producer and a recording studio. What that studio makes on the artists is sold with the artists making royalties’ through out the sales for their laborers on its production.
Sports was at one time a closed business system where the talent of the players was paid a limited earnings. Player had no recourse other than to continue to play for the outfit he was in. Then came free agent players who pulled away from the status quo. Now where in as a player earning $120,000 per year is now earning in the Millions per year. Redistribution of wealth and exploiting the free markets of capitalism. Now management and players are selling their talents for what the market can bear. Both and then some have raised their wealth by the redistribution of earnings. [Laborers’ Productivity]
As for increase debt to GDP and which translates to increase debt to the nation [DUH] the party that spends more than they produce is the guilty party.
You are apparently that naïve that you would and do pay the 85% for 10%of usage of that truck. Perhaps you should seek additional education, before playing on daddies computer.

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The Anti-Alinsky

9:18 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

Bernie, glad you slept it off. Your sentences are more coherent, though the ramblings are still chaotic.

Not missing the point Bernie, just responding to your refusal to acknowledge the part of business and commerce in building the infrastructure of this country.

Using your "Movie Stars, Baseball players, Singers, and so forth" example, They are still getting paid right??? And, if management increases their pay they will simply pull the money from their own pockets right???

Wrong again Bernie. Management will simply increase the ticket or CD price and pass the cost along to the consumer. I'm not saying we shouldn't pay laborers a fair price, but don't kid yourself for one second that this scenario would be a true redistribution of wealth.

Your comment was "Greatest expenditures’ to GDP..." What the hell type of statement is that? What you are referring to is the debt ratio to GDP, which incidentally was at it's height under FDR, another war time president. Now, thanks to Barack Hussein Obama, it is back over 100%.

And what is with the paying 85% for 10% usage of a truck? If someone is willing to do that, that's there problem. I have no idea what you are babbling about here.

You really need to work on your English. If you are going to try to pass yourself off as an intellectual, at least get your message across in a meaningful fashion.

Bernard Forand

7:50 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

ANTI< ANTI:... Your comments are becoming boringly ignorant. Main Street pays on their earnings 25 to 35% in income taxes.You can't comprehend that? Out sourcing their wealth for tax evading procedures is not available to them. Romney paid 13.9 % in income taxes in 2010. That is on only the monies he could not hide from the IRS. [OUTSOURCING] You can't comprehend that?
Capital Gains tax was at 15% for the elitist that produce their wealth, by use of capital gains, start paying taxes at 15% and then seek additional loopholes. Main Street does not have that luxury. Millionaires themselves agree that they need to pay more taxes. Simpletons like you can not comprehend and remain chewing their cuds with the rest of the herd.
At present $23 trillion has been outsourced to foreign banks and investments with no taxes paid on them. Now you do the Math. Lets say 30% of $23 trillion is….. Will they bring back the wealth for reinvestment into our nations laborers productivity. Well lets see. We’ll put it to a vote, like this one;
Republican senators “stood firm with Mitt Romney and his 1 percent lobbyist friends” when they successfully filibustered the Bring Jobs Home Act yesterday, [July 19 2012] . The bill would cut taxes for U.S. companies that bring jobs and business operations back to the United States and end tax loopholes that reward companies that ship jobs overseas.
DO, do try to comprehend that!

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The Anti-Alinsky

9:49 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012

Bernie, wasn't the GOP refusal to end the filibuster because Harry Reid refused to bring ANY of the Republican amendment's to the floor?

And you really didn't answer the tax rate question, just tried to dodge it with the same old rhetoric.

To extend the previous example, lets say a billionaire decides to diversify his investments. He decides to put much of it into TAX FREE Municipal bonds, the rest in a variety of bonds and stocks. At the end of the year he made 100 million on the TAX FREE bonds, and 100 million on the rest. He pays nothing on the TAX FREE bonds, and 35 million on the rest. His effective tax rate is 17 1/2 %.

That's just a very simple example, but it illustrates the point. Income tax is more than just what did you make, send this percent in. If you feel some or all of these write-offs are inappropriate, then address those issues, not the "tax rate is not high enough" crap.

Your statement "Millionaires themselves agree that they need to pay more taxes". Is blatantly false. You may be able to name a few, like Warren Buffet. And if 'ol Warren want's to pay more to the government, there is nothing stopping him from doing that.

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