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POLL: Would You Turn in Your Child for Marijuana Possession?

Balancing the lesson taught by dealing with law enforcement against the consequences of having drug possession on their child's record is the dilemma facing parents.

 

The arrest of an 18-year-old in Muskego for marijuana possession sparked a conversation on Patch about the responsibility of parents in relation to their child’s drug use.

In this particular case, the teen wouldn’t let police search his car despite their suspicions, but when his mother arrived she gave the go-ahead and the man was arrested and charged with marijuana possession.

Commenters raised both sides of the argument on behalf of the mother. Was she a good parent for refusing to cover for her son’s lawbreaking behavior? Or was she a bad parent for saddling her young adult son with a misdemeanor charge that could impact college and/or job prospects? (Or should she have had any say in the fate of her legally adult child?)

Tell us how you would handle this — or how you already have. Vote in our poll and then participate in the discussion on the pros and cons of turning in your child for marijuana possession.

  • Would you turn in your child if you caught them with marijuana?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        51 (33%)
    • No
        100 (66%)
    Total votes: 151
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Drug Use, Marijuana Possession, Parenting, Patch Poll, and thc

Michael

7:08 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I don't think the mom had a right to give the go-ahead. Wasn't he 18? Why was she called in the first place? Refusing a police search, in my eyes, makes a person look guilty. This 18 yr. old needs to find better hiding spots in his vehicle. I survived a k9 search of my vehicle with over a half ounce in my car. The dog's handler said the dog was scratching at my center console because of the French fry it found. Actually, that's where I kept my stash(under a small removable change compartment). In my case, the officer should have listened to his k9 partner.

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Sunrocket

8:24 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Good for you Michael - what a solid citizen. You should be so proud of you. Lord help us.

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Tina L.

9:22 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Well said Sunrocket! Thanks for openly, sharing your stupidity, Michael!

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Unions_NO

9:33 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Guys, consider, if SHE owns the car, he sells pot from it, she could lose the car. Legally speaking, IF the mom owns the car, she can say "Yes" to the search. If not, she cannot. Former cop here...if they searched, it must have been her name on the title. If not, then obviously the 4th Amendment questions.

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Kevin R Martin

11:39 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

@Michael: Your post is an admission and an admission against interest, both of which are admissible in court under Wis Stat ss. 908.01(4) & 908.045(4). Depending in the amount, possession of THC with intent to deliver is a Class I or H Felony under Wis Stat s. 961.41(1m)(h); straight possession of THC is a Class I Felony under Wis Stat s. 961.41(3g), all of which are punishable by fines and imprisonment under Wisconsin's Uniform Controlled Substances Act. You have been posting on he Wauwatosa Patch since May of this year. I suspect you may be hearing more about your post in the near future.

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Daniel S.

11:54 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Be careful is right Michael to quote K. Martin; Big Brother is watching, but they don't bother the dealers much, just innocent smokers; it's easier, not as dangerous. Whatever you do, don't go reaching for your stash, they may suspect you are going for a gun and it will be lights out . . .

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Malcolm Kyle

2:58 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

It's not even possible to keep drugs out of prisons, but prohibitionists wish to waste trillions of dollars in an utterly futile attempt to keep them off our streets.

When governments prohibit drugs they effectively and knowingly hand a monopoly on their sale to dangerous criminals and terrorists. Without a legal framework in which to operate, these black-market entities can always be expected to settle their disputes violently, while terrorizing many peaceful and innocent citizens in the process. Were the users of alcohol to blame for the St Valentines massacre in 1929? Of course not! It is just as naive to assume that one can compel all the users of Marijuana, Cocaine, or Meth to simply quit, as it is to assume that all the users of Alcohol should have stopped drinking after the introduction of alcohol prohibition in 1919.

Nobody can be expected to obey bad laws, like ones that infringe on logic as well as the fundamental right to decide on what medicine or poison an individual adult may, or may not, ingest. The violence and the deaths ultimately arising from such bad public policy should always rest squarely on the shoulders of those ignorant imbeciles who are responsible for implementing and supporting such foolishness.

If you support prohibition then you support bank-rolling criminals and terrorists. There's simply no other logical way of looking at it.

Kay Parfield

7:27 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

And you're proud of that??? That's exactly why mommy's SHOULD report their child's criminal behavior.

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Frank

10:40 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If your children are smart enough to get all the scientific facts about Cannabis, there is no way he or she shouldn't be allowed to use Cannabis because it is scientifically proven that:
- Cannabis kill cancer cells leaving the healthy cells unarmed and it is by far the most efficient medicine to cure and/or prevent most cancers
- Cannabis is the safest and most efficient medicine to control attention disorder, can't be compared to Ritalin witch is a deadly poison to start with
- Cannabis user stay younger, healthier and have a better quality of life
- Cannabis is the safest and the best anti-depressant known to men
- It is more damaging for your health to eat 10 potatoes than to use Cannabis
- There is not a single death attributed to Cannabis, alcohol kills thousands of person every single month and everyone is using it like they believe it is not a drug, in fact alcohol is the worst of all drugs when it comes to the damage it can cause to every system in your body, from your brain cells getting toasted to all the heart, liver etc. problems, child with irreversible birth defect both intellectual and physical so if you love life, and your children and relative, you owe to yourself to take a few minutes of you time to do a google search and dig a little bit what comes up when you search cannabinoids and cancer.

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Cricket

12:36 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Frank - I think your facts are a little whacked. A coworker of mine years ago was a daily - day long smoker. She was not always a lot of fun to work with number one, was kind of out of it all the time - her attention was nil. Number two - she could not be relied upon for much and three, died of uterine cancer 5 years ago.

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Malcolm Kyle

2:59 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Kay Parfield, Prohibition­ has also raised gang warfare to a level not seen since the days of alcohol bootleggin­g in the United States. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has creating a prison-for­-profit synergy with evil drug lords and terrorists. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has removed many of our cherished and important civil liberties. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has put many previously unknown and contaminate­d drugs on our streets. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has escalating Murder, Theft, Muggings, and Burglaries­. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has overcrowd­ing the courts and prisons, thus making it increasing­ly impossible to curtail the people who are really hurting and terrorizing­ others. How has that helped our kids?

Prohibition­ has evolved local street gangs into transnatio­nal enterprise­s with intricate power structures that reach into every corner of society, and with significant social and military resources at their disposal. How has that helped our kids?

“The State must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.” — Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”

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Frank

10:11 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Cricket, I know many people doing the same and they never used Cannabis ever, some person are hard worker, good at school some people are not, it has nothing to do with Cannabis, and how do you know this person never took anything else than Cannabis? no alcohol, no cigarettes, not living near a nuclear plan or a company that releases poison in the air??? I have been smoking for 32 years non stop, 2 years ago I stopped for a year and I am still very well and I have a lot of success both professionally and socially so don't tell ME it's bad I know better

DJ

7:29 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I wouldn't turn my child in on his/her offense due to the impact it would have on his/her future. A very serious talking to would follow with the understanding that there will be not be a parent bailing them out next time. Everyone makes mistakes, but most importantly, you must learn from them!.

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Sunrocket

8:25 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

And by just giving them a serious talking would do that? Perhaps some ramifications would speak louder than words.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:01 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Sunrocket, will you graciously applaud when, due to your own incipient and authoritarian approach, even your own child is caged and raped?

* It is estimated that there are over 300,000 instances of prison rape a year.
* 196,000 are estimated to happen to men in prison.
* 123,000 are estimated to happen to men in county jail.
* 40,000 are estimated to be committed against boys in either adult prisons or while in juvenile facilities or lock ups.
* 5000 women are estimated to be raped in prison.

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/RapeInPrison.html

And will you also applaud when your own child, due to an unnecessary and counter productive felony conviction, can no longer find employment?

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Malcolm Kyle

3:02 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike, most of us know that individuals who use illegal drugs are going to get high—no matter what, so why do you not prefer they acquire them in stores that check IDs and pay taxes? Gifting the market in narcotics to ruthless criminals, foreign terrorists, and corrupt law enforcement officials is seriously compromising our future.

Why do you wish to continue with a policy that has proven itself to be a poison in the veins of our once so "proud & free" nation? Even if you cannot bear the thought of people using drugs, there is absolutely nothing you, or any government, can do to stop them. We have spent 40 years and trillions of dollars on this dangerous farce; Prohibition will not suddenly and miraculously start showing different results. Do you actually believe you may personally have something to lose If we were to begin basing our drug policy on science & logic instead of ignorance, hate and lies?

Maybe you're a police officer, a prison guard, or a local/national politician. Possibly you're scared of losing employment, overtime pay, the many kickbacks, and those regular fat bribes. But what good will any of that do you once our society has followed Mexico over the dystopian abyss of dismembered bodies, vats of acid, and marauding thugs carrying gold-plated AK-47s with leopard-skinned gunstocks?

Kindly allow us to forgo the next level of your sycophantic prohibition-engendered mayhem.

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Sunshine

10:50 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I did turn two of my children in - one many years ago and just recently. I have to tell you, I would never do it again....the "system" is not what a parent thinks. We hoped for help - all we got was trouble with the possibility of losing our home due to the financial burden that comes along with reporting your children. Believe me, if I could do things differently - I would!

Mike B

7:31 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If the guy had never had anything else related to drugs going on, then I'd probably say No and deal with it at home (assuming the kid lives at home). If this was an ongoing issue, then heck yes. If they choose not to learn the easy way, then they have to learn the hard way.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:04 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike B, why do you wish to continue to spend $50 billion a year to prosecute and cage your fellow citizens for choosing substances which are not more dangerous than those of which you yourself probably use and approve of, such as alcohol and tobacco?

Do you honestly expect the rest of us to look on passively while you waste another trillion dollars on this ruinously expensive garbage policy?

Why are you waging war on your own family, friends and neighbors?

Why are you so complacent with the fact that our once 'proud and free' nation now has the largest percentage of it's citizenry incarcerated than any other on the entire planet?

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Mike B

6:56 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Umm, because it's Illegal...

Lobby your politicians and get it made legal and then many answers here will change. For now it's illegal. Who gets to decide which things that are against the law are the important things and which things aren't that important and should just be ignored? You? Me? Talk about anarchy.

Don't want to go to jail? Don't want to get a ticket? Need some legal advice? To quote a great movie: "Stop breaking the law a$$hole!" It's really not that hard.

And nope, don't smoke, rarely drink, have never done drugs. It's really not that hard to just not use those types of things. Anyone can do it.

Don Niederfrank

7:36 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

As a parent, no, not the first time. But I would tell him/her that if it happened again I would call the police. And I would.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:05 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Don, why are you helping to fuel a budget crisis to the point of closing hospitals, schools and libraries?

Why do you rejoice at wasting precious resources on prohibition related undercover work while rapists and murderers walk free, while additionally, many cases involving murder and rape do not even get taken to trial because law enforcement priorities are subverted by your beloved failed and dangerous policy?

Why are you a supporter of the 'prison industrial complex' to the extent of endangering our nation's children?

Will you graciously applaud when, due to your own incipient and authoritarian approach, even your own child is caged and raped?

Jeanne Pellin

7:38 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I would absolutely not turn my kid in for pot. I'd take the car keys if he/she lived at home until they learn responsibility to not drive under the influence. If the problem is severe, rehab is a much better option than destroying his/her record...IMO.

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Frank

11:01 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You don't send a person to rehab for Cannabis, it is a non-addictive, non damaging substance, one of the safest know to men!!!People are just plain crazy...

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N. Peske

11:42 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Frank, if you think people can't become deeply dependent on marijuana, talk to someone who works in the wellness field. Call up the Berkeley Free Clinic and ask how many people call them asking for help breaking a marijuana addiction.

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Daniel S.

2:55 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

N.Peske - habit forming is not the same as Addictive. Many people have spending (shopping) habits that are more damaging than MJ smoking daily is. In addition, you do not Need to Smoke MJ, you could eat, or drink it in tea form, to avoid the smoke dangers.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:08 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

N Peske, Scientific fact: Marijuana is less addictive than a cup of tea.

http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/basicfax5.htm

Dr. Jack E. Henningfield and Dr. Neal L. Benowitz of the University of California at San Francisco ranked six psychoactive substances on five criteria.

Withdrawal -- The severity of withdrawal symptoms produced by stopping the use of the drug.

Reinforcement -- The drug's tendency to induce users to take it again and again.

Tolerance -- The user's need to have ever-increasing doses to get the same effect.

Dependence -- The difficulty in quitting, or staying off the drug.

Intoxication -- The degree of intoxication produced by the drug in typical use.

The tables listed below show the rankings given for each of the drugs. It is notable that marijuana ranks below caffeine in most addictive criteria.

The rating scale is from 1 to 6 -- 1 denotes the drug with the strongest addictive tendencies, while 6 denotes the drug with the least addictive tendencies.

HENNINGFIELD RATINGS

Substance Withdrawal Reinforcement Tolerance Dependence Intoxication

Nicotine 3 4 2 1 5

Heroin 2 2 1 2 2

Cocaine 4 1 4 3 3

Alcohol 1 3 3 4 1

Caffeine 5 6 5 5 6

Marijuana 6 5 6 6 4

BENOWITZ RATINGS

Substance Withdrawal Reinforcement Tolerance Dependence Intoxication

Nicotine 3 4 4 1 6

Heroin 2 2 2 2 2

Cocaine 3 1 1 3 3

Alcohol 1 3 4 4 1

Caffeine 4 5 3 5 5

Marijuana 5 6 5 6 4

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N. Peske

7:34 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Malcolm, if you Google those researchers via Google Scholar, no recent research comes up, and your link doesn't cite a particular study. You might be interested in this 2009 study, which supports my argument that one can become dependent on cannabis. Marijuana is a problem for many people, including male adolescents self-medicating for ADHD and anxiety. http://www.ijdp.org/article/S0955-3959(09)00050-4/abstract

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Frank

10:16 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

N.Peske: I have been smoking for 32 years non stop, 2 years ago I stopped for a year and I am still very well and I have a lot of success both professionally and socially so don't tell ME it's bad I know better, people in rehab for Cannabis are just stupid people who don't look at their life to find other problems they have, they are focused on Cannabis because people who don't know Cannabis are afraid of it not because it's dangerous but because the system told them it is but believe me it is not and I know what I am talking about since I studied the question for many years now and never found a real problem with it and anyone medicating for ADHD with anything else than Cannabis are going to have health problems anyway

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Mike B

10:20 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

And apparently it makes you talk in really long, run on sentences...

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N. Peske

3:04 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Drug dependencies are difficult to break, which pro-pot people often like to deny. Again, ask someone in the wellness field about what a struggle it is for people who have developed marijuana dependencies to break free of it.
Also, often these dependencies begin in adolescence, when use of marijuana is most damaging: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120827152039.htm
We need to get serious about teaching our kids HEALTHY ways to achieve self-regulation. Marijuana is not the "harmless" substance the pro-pot folks want to make it out to be in order to justify their habits. Adults are entitled to make poor health decisions--and I do not think marijuana should be illegal. I'd like to see an end to the lies and distortions, however. It is NOT healthy for teens to use marijuana.

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Nancy Hall

9:00 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Sending a child to therapy because he or she smoked weed habitually would make sense. This would not, necessarily, have to take place in a rehab facility. I don't buy the argument that dependence on marijuana is any healthier than dependence on alcohol. Anyone who needs to be high in order to get through life might benefit from a little self examination and reflection.

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Don Niederfrank

9:28 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Frank, et al.,

I'm a recovering addict. Marijuana was my drug of choice. You're right about it not being addictive in-and-of-itself. But alcoholism/addiction run in my family and so my response to discovering my child beginning to use any mind/mood altering substance would be to raise the consequences in an effort to stop the behavior. Of course, I would not want him to go to prison. But calling the police would not necessarily lead to that--especially on a first arrest possession. But it may get him to go to NA meetings and save his life.

235301

7:57 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The results of the poll are one of the most disturbing aspects of our little community: the parents cover for their kids and they end up being enablers. If the kid has no fear of the consequences they are going to continue to engage in that activity, likely with it escalating. How often do you see alcohol parties for the teenagers either when the parents are home and/or with the parent's blessing? Parent's attitude: I would rather have them doing it here in front of me rather than off somewhere else where I can't control it? Really?

If my kids ever got caught with pot the police would be the least of their worries. That was the way it was for most of us growing up. Unfortunately that level of discipline is rare these days, especially in WFB. All you have to do is take a walk here on a Saturday night to realize how prevalent the drug use is here in WFB. Those "youths" from "Milwaukee" that get busted here in WFB? They're here dealing drugs. You can see them most Saturday nights sitting in front of their customers home with the engine running waiting to sell their wares.

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b authentic

8:40 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Racist much? "Youths" from Milwaukee in cars with motors running sitting in front of your neighbors house selling drugs. How do you know they are from Milwaukee? Go to WFB (White Folks Bay) juvenile court sometime, I'm sure you will recognize your WFB youth.

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Unions_NO

9:40 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Do I need to wake up you parents to let you know that among some of us in the law enforcement community, "Homestead High School" is called "Heroin High?" Yes, statistically speaking, there ARE more drug sellers living in the inner city. That is not racist, it is a FACT. A city too afraid to speak the truth and hide behind "political correctness" will never begin to find a way to heal. However, if you think that your kids cannot buy pot, meth, coke or heroin in the burbs, you are KIDDING yourselves. (We live 20 miles from downtown, and my girls have been offered it all). Search your kids rooms, monitor their e-mail and pray. If they do not possess the steadiness of character in 9th grade to say no to what they will be offered...good luck. They need parents, not best friends, or even worse...divorced parents, afraid to discipline their child for fear of making them angry at them.

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b authentic

11:23 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

@Unions, I am puzzled about why 235301 identifies the "youths" in running cars as coming from Milwaukee. Could it be the color of their skin? That's racist.

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Joey Ismail

4:11 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Yes throw them in prison to stop them from smoking pot. You are truly a genius.

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mau

4:25 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

@Unions, I did just what you recommended and then some. When my son was in elementary school Officer Friendly brought a display case filled with all the various drugs and paraphernalia for parents to view. I attended and asked Officer Friendly how to keep my child on the right track. He said the main thing is peer pressure. You as a parent are in control of who their friends are and what their social circles participate in. Keep your child active. We did and it wasn't always easy. But, it was our decision where he went and who he hung out with. The biggest problem we had was speeding tickets. And that got nipped in the bud quickly when our child had to pay the lawyer fees, fines and insurance on the first offense.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:11 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

235301, the only people that believe prohibition is working are the ones making a living by enforcing laws in it's name, and those amassing huge fortunes on the black market profits. This situation is wholly unsustainable, and as history has shown us, conditions will continue to deteriorate until we finally, just like our forefathers, see sense and revert back to tried and tested methods of regulation. None of these substances, legal or illegal, are ever going to go away, but we CAN decide to implement policies that do far more good than harm.

During alcohol prohibition in the 1920s, all profits went to enrich thugs and criminals. Young men died every day on inner-city streets while battling over turf. A fortune was wasted on enforcement that could have gone on treatment. On top of the budget-busting prosecution and incarceration costs, billions in taxes were lost. Finally the economy collapsed. Sound familiar?

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Malcolm Kyle

3:14 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

UnionsNo, Prohibition is an absolute scourge—The End!  The use of drugs is NOT the real problem, the system that grants exclusive distribution rights to violent cartels and terrorists IS.

If you support prohibition then you support bank-rolling criminals and terrorists. There's simply no other logical way of looking at it.

Everybody who supports prohibition needs to understand that there is a human cost associated with this dangerous and failed policy. - Every time you/they assert their support for it they are condemning thousands more to death.

Every-time the ghastly violence of prohibition is falsely blamed on the users, it diminishes the culpability of those who are truly responsible for maintaining the status quo. Prohibition is an absolute scourge -the end! The use of drugs is NOT the real problem, the system that grants exclusive distribution rights to violent cartels and terrorists IS.

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Daniel S.

10:09 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

@Malcolm Kyle: " and those amassing huge fortunes on the black market " don't forget about the Huge Fortunes being made in the alcohol industry because MJ was made illegal. There is more to this game than most people realize or acknowledge. The Alcohol empire is huge and is a major force behind our leaders. Also look at the war in Afghanistan and what it has done for the growth of the Heroin industry. Our children are dying, being thrown away for this insanity. For what?

Jeff

8:04 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The purchase, sale, possession, or use of marijuana should absolutely not be illegal. Period. I don't use the stuff personally, but the criminalization of it baffles the mind. Utterly dumbfounds me.

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DJ

8:08 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Ok, am I the only idiot here? Mr 235301, who, what or where is "WFB"?

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Sunrocket

8:28 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Yes, you are. Must not have lived here long.

Str8shooter

8:09 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

He was an 18yo with enough marijuana to be charged with a misdemeanor and not receive a ticket so either it wasn't his first time or it was more than just a small amount. And since he is an 18yo drug user he probably can't afford a car so he is likely driving moms car so she can give consent. I understand why a parent would want to protect their child but it never seems to stop after the first time. This "boy" was an adult and our young people these days have no responsibility or know what consequences are because mommy and daddy often times cover for them. A couple things to consider are what do you do with the drugs if you refuse the search? Now what if the mom wouldve been caught with the weed in her drive home with the car? I think parents who have addict children wish they would've allowed police to play a role because the courts can get involved and force rehab and drug use monitoring. Courts can also dismiss charges if rehab is completed successfully. In my opinion that beats having a child not going anywhere in life and missing your chance to do something before the drug use gets so bad your child is one of the many unfortunate overdoses on the Patch. I understand the urge to protect your child but in a way either option is protecting your child. Just something to consider.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:16 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Reports that show Prohibition has failed:

http://idpc.net/publications/failure-regime-selected-publications

The Global Commission on Drug Policy:

http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/Documents.aspx

Reports that show alternative approaches of decriminalization and regulation are working:
http://idpc.net/publications/alternative-strategies-selected-publications

What we can learn from The Portuguese Decriminalization of All Illicit Drugs:

http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/6/999.abstract

General report on drug law reform in practice:

http://www.tni.org/report/legislative-innovation-drug-policy

Prohibition by Numbers:

http://www.drugpolicy.org/facts/drug-war-statistics

Final Report of the Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy - "Break the Silence and Open A Debate":

http://www.drogasedemocracia.org/English/Destaques.asp?IdRegistro=8

Lessons for Creating Fair and Successful Drug Policies:

http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/greenwald_whitepaper.pdf

Transform's outstanding (free) book titled, "After The War On Drugs : Blueprints for Regulation" - provides specific proposals on how various drugs can be regulated in the real world:

http://www.tdpf.org.uk/blueprint%20download.htm

Paul

8:17 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If the kids 18, absolutely
if it's my car, absolutely
if the kids hauled off to jail, enjoy your stay son I hope you learn your lesson.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:19 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Paul, Prohibitionists like yourself dance hand in hand with every possible type of criminal one can imagine —An unholy alliance of ignorance, greed and hate which works to destroy all our hard fought freedoms, wealth and security.

The present drug laws are making matters far worse than they would ever be under proper legalized regulation. Your blind support of prohibition provides the money gangs use to buy guns, and the money that the enemies of this great nation use to finance hijackings and bombings. Taking away their drug money by regulating drugs for adult use will strike a blow to crime at every level. This is none other than sound public policy.

Surely you know by now that Eliot Ness never put the bootleggers out of business. Repeal and a regulated market for alcohol did that in short order. There hasn't been a shootout over beer routes since 1933.

It’s time for you to wise up and help us curtail the dangerous expansions of federal police powers, the encroachments on individual liberties and the increasing government expenditure devoted to enforcing the unworkable policy of drug prohibition.

Tom Kamenick

8:17 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I don't believe drug possession should be criminalized (or even a ticket), so no, I wouldn't. That said, if my child was a minor, he would probably rather deal with the police than me at that point.

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Joey Ismail

4:13 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Agreed. I don't need to police to do my parenting.

Str8shooter

8:20 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

WFB is likely Whitefish Bay. I don't use marijuana and never will either. I know there arguements as to why it should be legal but right now it is ILLEGAL and makes many of its users lazy and unmotivated not to mention since it is illegal kids that are buying and selling it are being robbed by armed dealers which go unreported regularly. So even if you think it should be legalized, until it is you would be approving your child to take that risk. But that is another topic Poll all together.

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Joey Ismail

4:15 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Yes it's all the evil "Mexicans", did you get that straight from "reefer madness"? As a matter of fact, white kids smoke more weed than any other race in America. Welcome to reality. Marijuana shouldn't be illegal in the first place, then "drug dealers" wouldn't be selling it. I don't see "drug dealers" selling beer or cigarettes.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:20 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

@St8shooter, "We must simply obey the law"—Do you mean like laws that segregate? or laws against inter-marriage amongst blacks and whites? or all Jim Crow laws? or the laws instituted by the Nazis against Jews? or the laws that led to the breakdown of society in the US between 1919 and 1933? Laws may mean order - or they can be used to maliciously control, contain, subjugate, persecute and destroy. It is our moral obligation to oppose such laws in any way possible.

Unjust laws don’t get changed by conceding their illegality. They get changed by people standing up against them.

Bob McBride

8:24 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

For an 18 year old, drinking is illegal, too. How would you handle that?

I guess it depends on what message one wants to send to the kid about laws as well. Do we decide which ones we obey and which ones we skate on if we think we can, based on our personal beliefs as to whether they're right or not?

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Joey Ismail

4:20 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

We teach them to use their head. Some laws aren't "legitimate" laws. Remember, all of the founding fathers were "law breakers". It was once "against the law" for a woman to vote. It was once "against the law" to help free a slave. These "laws" are written by politicians, corrupt politicians to be exact. The "laws" against marijuana are no more legitimate than if we started throwing people in prison for smoking cigarettes. Giving them 20 years for transporting coffee. Give them life in prison for a bottle of vodka. You can make "anything" a law. I teach my kids to "think". There would be some SERIOUS consequences if I caught my kid smoking cigarettes, weed, or drinking. But destroying their life and saddling them with a criminal record over a beer or a joint? No, not hardly, not in a thousand years.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:22 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Bob, yes talk to your children!

Kids can ask some tough questions but those concerning prohibition are actually fairly easy to answer. Be straightforward: Explain concisely just how the unconscionable acts of parasitic prohibitionists at all levels of our bi-partisan police-state have raised gang warfare to a level not seen since the days of alcohol bootleggin­g; ­how these despicable monsters have creating a prison-for­-profit synergy with evil drug lords and terrorists; how they were able to remove many of our cherished and important civil liberties, putting many previously unknown and contaminate­d drugs on our streets; how they've overcrowd­ing the courts and prisons, making it increasing­ly impossible to curtail the people who are really hurting and terrorizing­ others; and how they've helped to evolve local street gangs into transnatio­nal enterprise­s, with intricate power structures that reach into every corner of society, and with significant social and military resources at their disposal.

Our children need to know that It's always possible to prevent a dire situation turning into an irreversible and very bleak one; kindly explain to them what our very wise forefathers did back in 1933!

Educate, regulate, and tax! 

Sunrocket

8:28 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

People - pot alters your brain, it makes things warm and fuzzy - sometimes, other times it makes your paranoid. Your reaction times are slower. Your judgement sucks. It is different than alcohol but it impairs you none the less - that alone should make some of these weanie parents think twice.

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mary jane

9:16 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

So does alcohol, my friend! Alcohol makes you feel warm and fuzzy - sometimes, other times it makes you violent. Take a look at how many people have been seriously injured or killed while under the influence of alcohol. Pot impairs you much less than alcohol. Legalize pot, regulate it, and tax it and we will find this country will be in far less debt!

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Joey Ismail

4:21 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Alcohol will kill you. I still wouldn't have my kid arrested for drinking a beer. That's why I'm the "parent", it's my job to deal with those things. If you need the cops to raise your kid, you've got more problems then some teenager with a joint.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:23 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Sunrocket, apart from the fact that legal drugs kill far more people than all the illegal drugs combined, debating whether a particular drug is harmless or not is missing the whole point. Are drugs like Heroin, Meth or Alcohol dangerous? It simply doesn't matter, because if we prohibit them then we sure as hell know that it makes a bad situation far worse. If someone wants to attempt to enhance or destroy their lives with particular medicines or poisons, that should be their business, not anybody else's. Their lives aren't ours to direct. And anyway, who wants to give criminals, terrorists and corrupt law enforcement agents a huge un-taxed, endless revenue stream?

A great many of us are slowly but surely wising up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation which is what we already do with alcohol & tobacco, clearly two of our most dangerous mood altering substances. But for those of you whose ignorant and irrational minds traverse a fantasy plane of existence, you will no doubt remain sorely upset with any type of solution that does not seem to lead to your absurd and unattainable utopia of a drug free society.

Mike Parent

8:37 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Legalize and Regulate!
“THE CHILDREN”
If they really cared for the children they’d legalize and regulate marijuana. If they really wanted to keep any substance out of the hands of “The Children” they first must take control of distribution away from black market dealers. They haven’t accomplished that in 40+ years at a taxpayers cost in the hundreds of billions. It’s time to treat marijuana as we do alcohol. My 27 year old daughter still gets carded when she buys alcohol, yet your 13 year old can buy anything the black market dealer has for a price whether it be money or “something else”.
FACT: Your kids have a better chance dying at the hands of someone enforcing marijuana laws than they do from ingesting it.(ZERO %).

LEAP member, NYPD, ret.
http://www.pitt.edu/~ugr/Hrych2.pdf Scientific Proof Marijuna is not a Gateway drug!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57456999-10391704/medical-marijua...
wont-boost-teen-pot-use-study-finds/

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Scott Berg

8:45 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Why are we limiting the discussion to marijuana? Alcohol is legal, but not for 18 year olds and with severe limits on consumption while driving.

If a similar incident occurred with alcohol, I claim "most" parents would try to cover it up. Isn't that the same lesson about enabling, slippery slope, etc.? Alcohol abuse, and not just for under 21 year olds, is very common today, including in affluent neighborhoods. Its legality, easy access and (perversely) reliably high quality make it far easier to abuse. And we all know what happened during prohibition...

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Cricket

8:45 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

We are still talking kids here. Alcohol is illegal for them as well. Legalizing it would pertain to adults, not children, whose brains are still developing and make bad decisions frequently as it is. You would still have the black market for them, which is basically their classmates and friends.

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Mike Parent

10:25 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

We don't see a black market in alcohol. Take the big money out of the equation and the BM will dry up.

Tina Kriegel

8:50 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I did call the police regarding my son about 10 years back, not that it did any good. This was after letting him 'slide' the first time, and giving him 'stern talking to' the time after that. Calling the police is not what ruined his future, his choices did. Maybe if I had called the first time, he wouldn't be stting in prison right now. Letting your kids get away with anything even once, is acceptance in their eyes - you can tell yourself differently, but it's true. My son still hasn't forgiven me for turning him in, but who knows, if I hadn't, he might be dead instead of sitting.

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Joey Ismail

4:25 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

That's as realistic as cutting your kids foot off if you catch them driving above the speed limit. You failed as a parent, nothing more, nothing less.

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Malcolm Kyle

3:28 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Tina, according to Paul Craig Roberts, a former editor of the Wall Street Journal and former assistant secretary to the treasury under Ronald Reagan, "Police in the US now rival criminals, and exceed terrorists as the greatest threat to the American public."

"Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with ‘scientific support’, fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents."  – William F. Buckley, Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

There is no conflict between liberty and safety. We will have both or neither.
William Ramsey Clark (1927--)

Tina, you have failed as a parent, now hang your head in shame!

Str8shooter

8:52 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Well I've dealt with hundreds of drug users who said marijuana was a gateway drug for them and also addicting for them. It all comes down to the individual person And to say legalizing and restricting it will keep the children safe??? You mean like prescription drugs? You mean like prescriptions which are extremely addicting and are 1 of the 2 most common drugs which children who don't have a prescription for them die from? This year in Milwaukee County alone there seems to be a lethal overdose every week with either pills or heroin and hundreds more where they are saved. Legalizing is one arguement but to say if it's regulated it won't make it to kids is not thought through. Your comparison was alcohol. So go tell the hundreds of juveniles going through local courts for underage drinking, drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, and homicide by intoxicated use of a vehicle that you didn't know they could get their hands on alcohol because it is regulated.

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Mike Parent

10:28 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Heree's a12 yr Univ study that says Marijuana isn't a gateway drug.
Andrew Hryckowian - University of Pittsburgh
www.pitt.edu/~ugr/Hrych2.pdf

December 11, 2006 • University of Pittsburgh •... Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug

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Malcolm Kyle

3:29 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

"Evidence provides no indication that decriminalization leads to a measurable increase in marijuana use."

— Boston University Department of Economics

"There is little evidence that decriminalization of marijuana use necessarily leads to a substantial increase in marijuana use."

— National Academy of Sciences

"The preponderance of the evidence which we have gathered and examined points to the conclusion that decriminalization has had virtually no effect either on the marijuana use or on related attitudes and beliefs about marijuana use among American young people."

— The University of Michigan's Institute for Social Research

"The Dutch experience, together with those of a few other countries with more modest policy changes, provides a moderately good empirical case that removal of criminal prohibitions on cannabis possession (decriminalization) will not increase the prevalence of marijuana or any other illicit drug; the argument for decriminalization is thus strong."

— British Journal of Psychiatry

Tom Kamenick

9:19 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I want to remind people that in Wisconsin, people under 18 can legally drink alcohol if they are with their parents - regardless of where they are.

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Joey Ismail

4:25 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

They can legally consume a deadly drug, but if they touch a plant lets throw them in prison? Marvelous

CatMM

9:27 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I don't think anyone has the right to judge this mother. None of us know what she has already gone through with her son. You cannot force your child to check into rehab if they are 18 or older. They can refuse and walk out. How long do you let the problem go on? What happens when they continue to "experiment" and end up being addicted to much more dangerous drugs? Sometimes a parent loves their child enough that they will do whatever they can to save their life. If I wouldn't have turned my heroin addicted child into the police 6 years ago, I doubt she would be alive and well today. This was after 4 rehab attempts and at least 3 overdoses. And no, she doesn't resent me for what I did. This was after 2 years of living hell putting up with her drug use, stealing, lying... and it did all start with alcohol and weed.

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giving me a migraine

9:35 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I agree wholeheartedly with you CatMM. Who are we to judge this woman without more information than this article provides? Even then I think we'd be sticking our noses in where they have no business being. Who knows what she's been going through with that kid? I'm certain she has his best interests at heart, as any mother would. Maybe she knows this may be the wake up call he needs.

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Diane M Smith

2:13 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I know what you went through was very difficult. I am happy that you have your daughter with you today. Our beautiful daughter overdosed by sniffing Xanax. When my husband & I discovered she was doing this, she agreed & my husband took her to a treatment center every week. Sadly, 9 months later, she died. The young man's place she went to, grew up in Muskego & he had 6 different prescriptions for pills from 6 different doctors. We never used any drugs, we also, always talked to our children about the devastation of drug use. She made a fatal choice....................

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Joey Ismail

4:26 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You're trying to compare heroin with weed? Have another drink....

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CatMM

4:39 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I'm so so sorry, Diane M Smith for the loss of your daughter. It sounds like you did all the right things- sometimes it still doesn't work. We can't control every thing they do, as much as we would like to. So sad. :(

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Malcolm Kyle

3:33 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Diane M Smith, your daughter was killed by the failed policy of prohibition.

In addition to the many societal costs of prohibition, it has a long history of driving the spread of harder or more dangerous drugs.

Marijuana to dangerous synthetic concoctions —such as AM-2201, spice, or bath salts.
Poppies to morphine, to heroine, to krokodil.
Coca to cocaine, to crack, to Paco/Kete/Bazuco/Pitillo.
Ephedra to ephedrine, to speed, to methamphetamine.
Mushrooms to ecstasy (MDMA), to PMMA, to 2CB/designers.

At every step the reasons for the rise in popularity of the new form of the drug are one or more of the following:

* It may be easier to smuggle.
* It may be more addictive, thus compelling the buyer to return more frequently.
* It may be cheaper to produce, therefore yielding more profit.
* Like a game of "whack a mole" a shutdown of producers in one area will mean business opportunities for another set of producers with a similar product.

Prohibition's distortion of the immutable laws of 'supply and demand' subsidizes organized crime, foreign terrorists, corrupt cops, and unconscionable politicians, while feeding the prejudices of self-appointed culture warriors everywhere.

sanchez

9:31 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Only pathetic, bad parents would turn their kids in. So you want the government to teach and raise your kids? That is YOUR job as a parent, not the government, not the taxpayers of this country. Every potential employer these days checks CCAP. By turning your kid in you are giving them a criminal record for life that every employer they have in the future can see their criminal record. A criminal record that wouldnt be there if some lazy parents werent too lazy to punish their kids and handed their responsibility over to the government.

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Tina Kriegel

9:46 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

What are your recommendations for punishment of an 18 year old drug user?? I would be really interested in knowing what you think would prove effective in this case.

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sanchez

10:02 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You cant figure it out on your own? Its not my job to tell you how to raise your kids nor is it the police or governments job. If the child is 18 it really is none of your business what they do.

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Tina Kriegel

10:09 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You're kidding, right? After 18, it's none of our business - we shouldn't care?? Do you have kids? If you do, (and I'm hoping you don't), you'd realize that your responsiblity and love never ends, no matter how old they are.

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Tina Kriegel

10:29 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Sorry, didn't realize that no one is entitled to an opinion but you. You win.

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Ann

10:43 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I couldn't agree more sanchez!

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Frank

10:56 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I didn't see anything concerning a drug user in this article? It's about a kid that as been caught with Cannabis, if he uses it himself he is preventing so many illnesses and diseases it is impossible to lst them all here but do a little bit of research and you will find very serious scientific studies that demonstrate that Cannabis can cure and/or prevent cancer it really is the tree of life that keeps people using it happy, healthy and peaceful so it is completely crazy to outlaw such a blessing for humanity

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sanchez

11:35 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

LOL @ Mike

Dude, you gained all that knowledge of me how? How about adding something valuable to this debate? Do you lack the intellect to be able to add anything worthy of discussion or do you just get your jollies off attacking people?

Str8shooter

9:47 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Parents should raise their kids and NOT be a friend but a parent. Police should be involved when a child breaks a serious enough law NOT the parent teaching the kid it's ok to hide behind the parent. Offenses can be removed from CCAP and as I previously stated courts can dismiss charges, can force rehab unlike a parent, and can save a child when it is out of the parents control. Maybe you are a lucky enough parent that your child only grows up to think they don't have to be responsible for their actions or you may be unlucky and have your child continue on the path you Ok'd for them and die from the drug world. If the child was concerned what the parent would think they would have never had the drugs in the first place. My hat goes off to the parents that act as parents and not friends covering up for their children's actions. The problem is many parents protect their kids from other crimes also.

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sanchez

10:06 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

18 year old kid. It is really none of your business what they do. Turning them in to the police makes you an enemy, not a parent and you deserve to be shunned by your kids if you are so pathetic that you cant figure out a solution other than handing off YOUR responsibility to the government.

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mytwocents

2:55 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012

...."...when a child breaks a serious enough law...." That's just plain stupid.

Freddy

9:49 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Ridiculous. It shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Do what you know is right, not what society says is right. Remember, people like you voted for and supported Hitler to kill Jews. Just because Democracy (mob rule) votes this illegal, they're still wrong. It's a plant! Eat it!

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NaiveOne

9:54 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

This kind of survey begs the question of whether or not parents should call the police if their child has been driving while drunk, or even worse, if the child is driving without wearing his/her seat belt.

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Joey Ismail

4:29 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Exactly, if I saw my kid "jaywalking" should I call the cops? After all, jaywalking can be deadly!

Mitch Morrison

9:57 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Depends on my child's existence past,present and future..more than meets the eye on this question...

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CatMM

10:01 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Sanchez you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't know what some parents have already gone through trying to discipline their children. It sounds like you are really concerned with your "taxpayer money". Well the taxpayers don't pay for rehab. Some parents have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on rehab, hospitals, counseling, until there is nothing else they can do. The parent isn't the one who gave this kid a criminal record- he is the one who broke the law and brought it on himself. You seem to be the kind of person we hear always going on and on about personal responsiblity- well when does that start? When they are 18, 19, 20? Or are the parents responsible for all the poor choices their kids make in spite of doing everything they could to bring them up right.

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Joey Ismail

4:31 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If you would put your kid in jail over some weed, you are an idiot. Smoking a plant isn't going to kill them, getting caught up in the criminal justice system might. Another clown who thinks it's the governments job to raise their kids. And we all know how well the government does these massive undertakings. No wonder we have more people in prison than any other country on earth.

Str8shooter

10:03 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

ALSO as I said parents should call the police when the child has committed a serious enough crime. Seat belt...use some common sense. Drugs which parents can't control and kill people....depends if the parents want to take the chance of living with the regret of knowing they could've saved their life. This poll isn't about a seat belt or littering, its about potentially saving your child from drug addiction, overdose, robbery, being murdered, and committing further crimes to support an addiction. If you as a parent have the experience and resources to address all of those concerns I wish you the best. But if your child was concerned what you had to say they would've never done it the first time.

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sanchez

10:23 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

when was the last time someone overdosed on marijuana? You dont know what you are talking about. Dont even say that lame gateway drug excuse. Drugs are pushed on kids and adults everyday by doctors... Cant pay attention, here have some ritalin. Depressed, we have a pill for that...

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Ann

10:41 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

save their life? people don't die from smoking pot I mean maybe you could claim that if they were bangin' heroin or smoking crack but LOTS of successful people smoke pot and no one has ever died as a direct result of smoking marijuana. you cannot even overdose on it!

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Joey Ismail

4:32 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If you don't know the difference between "deadly drugs" and marijuana, you shouldn't be commenting.

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mytwocents

3:00 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012

"serious enough" is the key phrase here. And whether or not pot possession is "serious" or not is an opinion. We know where you stand. But most of the posters here don't consider pot possession as live threatening as you apparently do. You need a serious lesson in risk assessment. There are soooo many things that are much more life-threatening than smoking pot. Go ahead; turn your kid in for texting while driving. Now THAT IS "serious enough."

Str8shooter

10:21 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Sanchez - Next time you are the victim of a crime, start up a block watch or find something else to do rather than turn your problem over to the police. I would like to know what you're plan would be to monitor and surveil your child 24hours a day for the rest of their life? All of the parents out there are waiting for the answer that Sanchez has that no one else has ever tried. You do what you can to teach consequences to your child and save their life. That's what we're talking about here...saving your child's life! And far too many parents think they have the answers until its too late.

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sanchez

10:35 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

"surveil your child 24hours a day for the rest of their life"

what the hell are you talking about? When a child turns 18 they are free to make their own decisions. It does not matter if you agree with them and their decisions at that point are none of your business.

Marijuana possession is a victimless crime, it hurts no one. It is nothing like other crimes and isnt even comparable. Setting up a block watch for marijuana possession, thats just ridiculous...

You have 18 years to teach a kid about consequences and respecting laws... Not sure why you dont understand that when someone is 18 they are an adult and free to make their own decisions, every last one..

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sanchez

11:08 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Your an idiot Mike... Waste of oxygen..

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Joey Ismail

4:32 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

How are you saving your child's life by saddling them with a criminal record? Saving them from what, marijuana?

Str8shooter

10:35 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

So marijuana is ok because drugs are pushed on kids daily? I don't follow your reasoning? Last time I dealt with a marijuana overdose was early this year when it was cut with another substance. Put the kid in the hospital. I've seen a couple people ask you Sanchez what you're qualifications are and if you have a child, a child with an addiction? You've heard responses from parents with that unfortunate problem, a parents saying weed was a gateway drug for their daughter, and me having experience in the courts, drug rehab, narcotics enforcement, and working with drug users. It is a new world out there which consists of drug users waking up in the morning and every second of their day is drug seeking and what crime can they commit to support their habit. That is their life. If these people saying they became addicted to weed and it was their gateway drug isn't credible then what is?

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sanchez

10:56 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Not sure why I would have to show qualifications or prove anything to anyone.. Again people like you are overstepping boundaries, my life is none of your business just as an 18 year old kids decisions are none of your business.

Kids are taught at a young age that drugs make you feel better: have a headache or pain, take some aspirin. Have depression or mood swings, take a pill. Hyperactivity, take some Ritalin.. Want to catch a buzz, drink a beer. How exactly is marijuana any different or more of a gateway drug than anything else?

So you saw a supposed overdose of marijuana but it had some other substance mixed with it. How did marijuana cause the overdose then? Maybe the other substance was something that was taken from a parents pill cabinet?

Ann

10:38 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If you wouldn't turn you kid in for having a beer why would you do so for cannabis? (Pot is safer than alcohol) A drug conviction can also keep you from being able to receive financial aid in college. I think the damage from reporting your child to the state outweighs any damage they could suffer from smoking some grass.

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KM

10:51 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I have a 24 yr old son who at 16 was caught with underage drinking and a pipe, I was called by Pewaukee Police to pick him up, I asked them to keep him over night, they wouldn't he was punished by taking the keys and grounded. I was a single mom, he was bigger than me and a very angry boy because his dad passed away 5 yrs prior. He got a ticket for 400.00, he paid it. The next 3 times he got caught with underage drinking over the next 3 years, the tickets were up to 2000.00, when he turned 18 they were on his record. He did spend one of those nights in jail, it must of been a bad experience because he has never been caught again. When he turned 21 a few days later he tried to kill himself, reasons he said were he can't get a job because of his record, this was when he was finally able to get help he went into rehab and therapy. Things were great!! But then Therapy ended, he still can not get a job, he applies at jobs every week. He is very depressed and I don't know anymore how to help him. He has no insurance, he doesn't drink or use any drugs anymore. He lost 3 good friends to heroine overdoses in Pewaukee, one died in his arms. I don't think turning your kids in to the attorities is the answer, It messes up there chances. If they can't get jobs they can't pay there fines, if they can't pay there fines you can't get it whipped off Ccaps.

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Joey Ismail

4:35 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I'm kind of surprised you thought turning him into the police would ever end in a good way. We live in a digital world. Handcuffing your child for the rest of their life all over a beer? I just don't understand what some people are thinking.

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N. Peske

7:38 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Why aren't his juvenile records sealed?
Is he under the care of a therapist via your health insurance?
Have you considered helping him create a freelance job using his current skills and building upon them with education? Did he attend or graduate from college? Is it possible he could do so and have a side-job as a self-employed person, with you helping him learn the skills to manage his small business?
There are physical interventions for mild to moderate depression: exercise, time outdoors, natural supplements. A good nutritionist might be able to make a big dent in his mood. It also sounds as if he's got to find ways to release his grief over his losses. Is there any way you can get him back into therapy?
Wishing the best to you and your son.

Mike Knight

10:52 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If someone was a decent parent to begin with then their kids wouldn't be doing drugs. Even if they were someone would have to hate their kid to turn them over to the police which could mean years in jail for a non-violent crime. A non-lazy parent who actually cares about their kids would take other approaches to dealing with their kids drug problems. Once it's in law enforcement, and court hands anything could happen, and they'll have a criminal record that will follow them around for life. Also who knows what atrocities they could face in prison.

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sanchez

11:12 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Not true at all. Peer pressure is more to blame for drug use than bad parenting. You can be a great parent to your own kid but how do you know what the other kids they hang around with are like? Some kids listen to their friends more than their parents.

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b authentic

12:47 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

WRONG! I know wonderful, devoted, involved, parents whose children use and are addicts. Most parents do the best they can with what they've got.

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Joey Ismail

4:36 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I have to agree with you. Calling the cops to raise your kids? Give me a break, lazy parenting.

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Nancy Hall

9:19 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

@Mike Knight...You don't sound like someone who actually has kids. I'm fairly confident that my young adult kids don't do drugs. If they ever did, it didn't go beyond experimentation. Nonetheless, I know great parents whose kids have done drugs habitually. In some cases, it's just one kid who does drugs and another who doesn't so it's hard to blame that outcome on poor parenting. There are any number of reasons that kids will try drugs. Peer pressure and curiosity are at the top of the list. Self medication for anxiety and/or depression is another often overlooked reason kids turn to drugs. Sometimes, when parental discipline is too harsh, kids will use drugs to cope with the feelings of alienation and worthlessness. They may also seek the warmth of a more accepting peer group. Parenting can only go so far in insulating kids against life. We teach them as much as we can and then hope for the best.

Chandra Batra

10:54 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I would be upset that he was acting like a dumbass and driving recklessly (which was the reason for the initial stop) and call a lawyer. I would never turn my kid in for something that our country's forefathers did but, I would be upset that he was being so dumb with a deadly weapon (car accidents are a leading cause of death amongst people 18-25).

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b authentic

12:49 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Where in the article does it say anything about the way the guy was driving?

Muskego Mike

10:57 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Plenty of little pot smokers in Muskego. We see them all the time in the parents fancy car smoking it up in a new neighborhood near our house. Smoking dope and driving is a popular activity in Muskego. Reading some of these responses explains a lot. This activity seems to be endorsed by plenty of parents.

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Str8shooter

11:03 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

OK some people need to read everything that has been said. I'll try and respond and repeat the things I've already said to address the last couple questions. To Sanchez and Ann. I asked you what your answer would be since all the parents with this same problem have tried everything unsuccessfully. So since they tried everything 24hr a day surveillance would be the only thing left. I am referring to ALL drugs and not only marijuana although I know what the poll is about because as I stated already and as did some parents, marijuana is addictive and a gateway drug per their own child's statement and statements I have gotten from hundred of drug users. Controlled substances affect every person differently based on the chemicals in the body. Just as Ritalin will work for others while it has the opposite or no effect on others. I also explained how the last marijuana OD I had that put a kid in the hospital was early this year. I also explained how buying and selling marijuana (this innocent plant) contributes to robberies and murders which often times go unreported because of the nature of the crime. Some of the first murders in Milwaukee this year were drug deals gone bad. You're not only protecting your child from simply smoking weed, you're protecting your child from the dozens of other horrible possibilities that are associated with it you and many others don't see when they don't open up their eyes and see the big pictures.

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sanchez

11:20 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I gave you my answer: an 18 year old ADULTS decisions are their decisions, not yours. You can and should always talk to your kid but you do not run their life anymore. If you involve the police in THEIR decisions that harm no one but themselves you are disrespecting their PRIVATE PROPERTY which is their body that they and they alone have full jurisdiction over upon reaching the age of 18.

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sanchez

11:24 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Show some proof that there are marijuana related murders, and robberies. I think you are making up stories or are just lumping marijuana in with all other illegal drugs.

Show me proof of a marijuana overdose not one that was caused by something else added to marijuana which could have just as easily been added to tobacco.

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Joey Ismail

4:39 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You can't create a black market and then step back in "horror" when that black market becomes deadly. You are the moron lighting the fire, the responsibility is yours. The people who supported the prohibition of alcohol created the Mafia. You have created the cartels. You support the cartels. You contribute to the cartels. You are responsible for the cartels. You cannot wash your hands of prohibition, if you support it, you are responsible for it.

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CatMM

4:47 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If your child wants to be free at age 18 to make all of their own decisions, then they better be completely self supporting, living on their own, driving their own cars. etc....
Obviously some of these comments are coming from people that ARE 18 or not much older, not from parents who know that you never stop worrying about them on that magic 18th birthday.

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Daniel S.

5:03 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

CatMM- what is so Magic about being 18? You cannot buy Alcohol or a Handgun. The Magic Age is still 21, but even that is not true thanks to the current administration and changes to the healthcare industry; now it's 26. Pretty soon people will be 30 before they have to start taking responsibility for themselves, what a joke of a society.

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CatMM

5:18 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Daniel S, there is nothing magic about turning 18. I was answering Sanchez's posts about how 18 year olds are adults and how its none of their parents business what they do at that age. I was being sarcastic.

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CatMM

5:22 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Rio, 21, was sentenced by Circuit Judge Timothy Dugan on a charge of
felony murder. Rio, of Sharon, earlier pleaded guilty in the Nov. 28
slaying of Shaun J. Cobbledick of Saukville.

In the same way that the robbery wasn't Rio's idea, the would-be
marijuana deal that led to Cobbledick's death wasn't his idea.
According to a criminal complaint, Cobbledick came to Milwaukee with
some friends on behalf of his roommate.

The roommate, who had to go to work, gave Cobbledick $300 for 3 ounces
of marijuana and another friend gave Cobbledick $50 for a half-ounce
of the drug.

Unknown to Cobbledick and his friends, a woman who set up the drug
deal did so with a narcotics dealer who instead planned a rip-off.
Rio, who met the dealer through a Milwaukee man he got to know in the
Walworth County Jail, was broke when the dealer gave him a pistol and
talked him into ripping off the suburban kids.

Rio's previous convictions were for battery and theft, both
misdemeanors.

To complete the supposed transaction, Cobbledick drove off alone with
Rio, according to the complaint. Rio had Cobbledick drive to an alley
in the 1400 block of S. 10th St., where he robbed him at gunpoint.
Rio later told police that Cobbledick was shot during a subsequent
struggle for the pistol, according to the complaint. Rio left
Cobbledick slumped in his friend's car with a bullet hole in his head
and the engine running.

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Daniel S.

5:28 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

My apology CatMM, sometimes it gets to be a bit much to follow the replies to these blogs. I would agree to an extent, that at 18 they should be responsible, but as a human parent, I believe our responsibility to help them, especially with logical advice lasts till we take our last breath.

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CatMM

5:40 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

You're right, Daniel. They should have a "Reply" button for each comment. I know as a parent, I won't stop worrying about the welfare of either of my kids until the day I die. You don't stop being a parent no matter what their age.

Str8shooter

11:13 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Sorry I didn't clarify...they were weed deals gone bad. Shot and killed because someone wanted their $20! Most courts will not keep a conviction titled as "drugs" if it's a first offense. They can amend the offense to non drugs, can dismiss charges, can reduce charges, and can force rehab or monitoring. Any concern about a simple drug possession on the record of a first time offender has been addressed and although the system is definitely not perfect, it tends to be appropriate for someone with no record and completes monitoring successfully.

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sanchez

11:31 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

"they were weed deals gone bad"

proof or it didnt happen. I want to see evidence that this happens in Milwaukee.

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CatMM

5:20 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

"they were weed deals gone bad"
proof or it didnt happen. I want to see evidence that this happens in Milwaukee." It took me awhile to find an article about this. It has stuck in my mind for years since I remember when it happened and remember the family. Here is where I found the article: http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/980520.html. I was trying to copy it and put it here, but its too long for a comment. Read the part about Sean Cobbledick of Saukville.

John Rice

11:13 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I think the war on drugs is a failure. Marijuana should be legalized. So should most drugs. Right now a great number of people in our population use some form of an illegal drug, just as people drank during Prohibition. There should be laws against driving while under the influence and significant punishment for those. But currently illegal drugs have become a part of the corruption of law enforcement and others. Wisconsin's laws regarding drunk driving leave too much leeway for people to re-offend and hurt and kill people. But unfortunately too many people wants drugs and there are people who will supply them. Once upon a time in this country a president declared a war on drugs. See how well that did.

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Flora

11:27 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The only crime id turn my kids in for would be murder. Enough said everone has good points except the Sanchez guy...really? Lmao dude you just proved why America doesn't want us Latinos here...ignorant answer and a come back with swearing bwahaha your funny and made my day today thanks compa! I do disagree with if someone was a decent parent bit because no matter how great of a parent you are there are outside influences as well as your childs way to be able to handle it. Not all kids posses the fortitude that it takes now a days to be strong and some are "just born" that way. Mental illness nature vs nurture...any how as for my answer no id never turn my kid in for pot and id never give consent to search my car if it was titled to me.

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sanchez

11:39 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

What makes you think I am Latino? I am a gringo esse. I only swore because someone insulted me first.

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sanchez

12:13 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Odd that you say I didnt make good points but then you basically repeat everything I have been saying.

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Unions_NO

6:27 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

@Floria..."The only crime id turn my kids in for would be murder.'...REALLY? How about Rape, Arson, Kidnapping, Aggravated (that means broken bones, teeth etc) Battery, Car Theft, Illegally Possessing a Weapon...etc? That is just a few off the top of my head. As they say, kids don't usually just go out and commit a felony. It is usually a pattern of behavior: they become ""Frequent Fliers" along the way, starting with vandalism, underage drinking, then breaking curfew to pot possession...from there, OWI, battery, domestic violence...and so it goes. I would hope you would take the time (and love for your child) to turn them in for a felony than murder. I hope you were joking.

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Daniel S.

6:38 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

@Unions No: there certainly is much thought needed with regard to some of the thoughts here. Illegal weapon possession? Depends, if I found it or not. If I found it, I'd dispose of it properly. Although, that could open up myself to being murdered by my own child. There would definitely be a discussion that was extremely serious. If I knew there was rape involved or child molestation, I would first contact a lawyer and reputable psychologist. Circumstances would have to be weighed in serious conditions as these. But where other lives are involved, they would definitely need to submit to evaluation and admit to authorities their crime. I would hope that seeking help of medical professionals and an attorney that they would be given the opportunity to turn their life around. If they did not willingly submit to those terms, I would have little choice but to do what was right by the life of other humans.

Bob Wylie

11:41 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Having seen the devistation just marijuana use has on a child, I would turn them in as soon as I could. This menality that says it will ruin my kids future to have that on his record is crazy. Consequences of bad behaviour is what will deter them in the future. Thier future will be forever changed using marijuana, so a minor ticket is peanuts compared to the damage they are doing to thier bodies.

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Mike Parent

12:45 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Why do you think it'll be a minor ticket? The mom basically allowed the police to give her son a criminal record. The Draconian way our society treats drug offenses is almost Taliban like. Please don't look for compassion from police, prosecutors or the courts.

Bruce Burchard

11:42 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Hell no!!!! my child, 15 or older...had better be sharing with me...anything other than weed...they would get a good beat down...foot in the ass.... >:( but weed...good lord give us that...its better than, beer, cigs, or anything els...weeds ok tho..but only weed!!!

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gail

11:47 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

If u go to jail that's the spot to meet other bad ppl. So would u ratger discipline ur child or have other stupid children in shelter and or secure showin em the ropes? Especially if its the first cpl of times. Hey and forget ' illigal use of marijuana' these cops are crooks point blank period. They steal pounds of bud from ppl they try to raid thinking they going to find ALOT. This situation reminds of when the whole same sex marriage started. We fight fight fight to make it happen but same sex relationships will always be there wether u like or not. If u would just legilize the shit the economy and the whole states would change imean its not to hard to smoke in the privacy of ur own home/ property.. now.there are 3 kinds of ppl in this situation. The smoker and the dealers..and the ppl who will go to any extent to get it sell it and or smoke it. Ppl like me relax in the privacy of my own home and JUST RESPECT THE LAW WHILE UNDER THE INFLUANCE OF THIS DRUG. EASY AS THAT OF CORSE TTHERES GOING TO BE.CROOKS. TELL ME SOMETHING NEW??????

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b authentic

11:56 am on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The article doesn't state why law enforcement was suspicious or why the mother was summoned. At 18 the young man shouldn't have needed his mother there. That said, I wouldn't have given my permission to search my car.
My children have been raised to be accountable and responsible. At appropriate ages they have been made aware of addiction and how it affects our family. They have made choices that have caused suffering, as well as rewards but over all they own their decisions and learn from them. My children have never seen me drunk or high. You can't stop your children from using but you can stop them from witnessing you using. Alcohol is THE gateway drug people!

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Muskego Mike

12:06 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I think the police department and Muskego High School should be combined into a single building. Force the K9 unit to walk through the halls multiple times each day. Park the police cars in the student parking lot and provide a dog for each officer. The High School would soon be a drug free zone.

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sanchez

12:12 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

and then change its name to Muskego Penitentiary..

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Joey Ismail

4:41 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I think they actually have a "school" like that in North Korea! Great Idea mike

Ryan Griffiths

1:16 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

All of you haters of Cannabis, look at the percentages of this poll (78%) and realise just how wrong you are !!!
Stop listening to the old propaganda about "The evil Weed" and look at yourselves .... I guess the majority of you think alcohol is OK. My Mother had me arrested at 17 and when I was sent to prison for a year at 19 for 0.05grams of cannabis she was devastated. I still smoke daily 36 years on so know that the prison sentance caused me more harm than the cannabis.
It`s time to look at the true facts !!!
http://www.leap.cc/

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Waukytalk

2:17 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

What, you a rocket scientist or something?

Katie Schwindt Phommarath

2:31 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

I turned my son in several time. He is clean now it took a year but i am proud of him.

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robert heule

3:10 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

During the Jazz Age, it was assumed that the reason blacks played better than whites was alleged use of marijuana. Congress overreacted and one of the results was restricting the harvesting of hemp for almost all positive use.

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robert heule

3:20 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

In Wisconsin, the possession of one ounce or less is subjected to a civil forfeiture as is the first drunk driving conviction. Which is more dangerous to society? Many conservative suburbs have adopted local ordinances so the can keep the money rather than let the it go to their respective counties through circuit court convictions.

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robert heule

3:26 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Tax it and use the money for drug abuse education in our high schools.

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Joey Ismail

4:09 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Absolutely not, is that even a serious question? Saddle my kid with a criminal record over some weed? And who do you think is going to support Jr. when he can't get a job? Can't go to school? That's "parenting" the "I'm with stupid" way. Marijuana isn't going to even be illegal in a few years, wake up. If you destroy your kids life over some weed, you don't need any kids to begin with. If you can't change your child's behavior without the police getting involved, you have failed as a parent. Plenty of people mess around with weed when they are young, 99% of them grow out of it and move on to have very productive lives. The last three presidents smoked weed, bill gates smoked weed, steve jobs smoked weed. A simple "arrest" would have derailed any of those men. Can you immagine a world without Apple Computer? A world without Microsoft? All over a "plant" that isn't even as dangerous as a 6 pack of beer? Unless my kid committed a "real" crime, the kind with a "real" victim, I wouldn't turn them in. That's like fixing a toothache with a sledge hammer, only an idiot would do something so absurd.

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Frank

10:22 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Well said Joey, at least I know that it's not all Americans who are stupid, a few of them are clever!!! A few is better than none!!!

Andy Smith

4:20 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Fully 72% of respondents would NOT turn in their child for breaking the law .. with a DRUG offense, and only 27% would? I think we've discovered the root of the problem. Would you turn-in someone ELSE's kid for dealing the drugs to your offspring? Really, you wouldn't!? What if the question was not about simple possession of marijuana, but sale of marijuana to others-- in other words, pushing drugs ... would you then turn in your own offspring? If not, why-- because it reflects badly upon you and you're ashamed, or because you don't feel obligated to protect others' children? Would love to see the responses to these questions ... for they would truly provide insight into these problems. Dare to answer?

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Joey Ismail

4:51 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Protect them from what exactly? "DRUGS"? You mean cigarettes, alcohol, coffee, weed, prescription drugs? What drugs exactly? There are different kinds of drugs, I don't need the "law" to tell me which ones are dangerous. I'd be FAR more concerned if I found my daughter smoking cigarettes or drinking beer, those are two of the most deadly "DRUGS" on earth. That doesn't mean I'd send them to jail for it, prison is more dangerous than weed. The criminal justice system has claimed more lives this week than the "DRUG" marijuana has. I'm not fixing my kids toothache with a sledge hammer. Send them to jail over a plant? A "DRUG" that according to all polling will be as legal as whiskey in the not too distant future? If you need the cops to raise your children, you are a failure as a parent. I don't need the police to help me discipline my child, I'm not an idiot.

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Frank

10:28 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Andy: I would not turn anyone smoking and or selling Cannabis because even if this person doesn't know, they are helping people have a good health and this is by far the best thing anyone could do. And yes every children should be protected, they are our future, if you don't protect them today, one day you will be to old to take care of yourself and guess who's gonna help you or not! Yes the today's kid...

@-;-'---- Rose

4:38 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Too many variables to answer that question yes or no. I see a lot of people have the same questions as me...does a mother have a right to do this if it is HIS car? Of course not. Would you turn your child in? One can always speak with a lawyer for advice if you know your kid is using. "Union" incensed me with his snide remark..."or even worse, divorced." I have been divorced since my sons were 1 and 3. Perhaps I didn't do it all right but I did do something right as they call every year and wish me a happy father's day. The one that was in and out of a lot of trouble started that tradition.

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maurice hunter

5:24 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

Want turn he or She in.But I will try to give he or She the best advise I could.I understand most comments Concerning jail.You must realize.If he or She is 16 or 18. When they in up in jail.They do not separate the muders from the dealers.So think before calling the police on yours, when they are that age. It is a possibility they might in up with the real dealers.Then you Kn what that means.He or She could become one of them, from there advice.Given them tips How not to get caught

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Str8shooter

6:25 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

So they would be given advice on how not to get caught by a guy that got caught? Probably won't be the greatest advice! HA. Sorry had to TRY to lighten the mood a bit. An oz of weed has nothing to do with it being a ticket or not. I see the concern with putting your child in with murderers and rapists. Could they possibly meet new friends? Sure. But normally they are awoken by the experience and never want to go back. And that of course is if they even do time for a drug offense. An addict could will meet other addicts at rehab so does that mean rehab is a bad idea?

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Denise Konkol

7:47 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The actual story that this was taken from involved the mom getting called by the police to come and get her son after he was caught at an underage party and was found in his car seemingly under the influence of one the other or both. I kind of wish the question would have been reworded to say "would you turn your kid in if the Police suspected they were hiding drugs?"

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Bren

9:03 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

That's a tough question. I believe the answer lies in how much personal responsibility a parent chooses to assume toward raising their child(ren). I have to ask myself how much responsibility I have in the wrong behavior of a relative. What could I have done differently? What can I do to make sure that person is making good decisions?

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The Donny Show

11:28 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I just spit coffee all over my screen reading this...What can I do differently? Seriously? This is EXACT problem with todays kids. They are NEVER held responsible for their messups.

Mike B

9:58 pm on Sunday, August 26, 2012

The POLL and the Story aren't asking the same question. The poll asks if I'd turn in a kid if *I* found them with Marijuana. I'm assuming that means I find them at home or something like that. If that's what it means, then I would not.

However, if the cops had pulled over my 18 year old child, and had reason to believe they might find some marijuana on him/her and wanted permission to search my vehicle, then I'd say Yes.

What you do at home, in a bedroom, where you aren't going to hurt anyone except yourself is one thing. What you do while driving a car, or getting ready to sell to other people, is completely different.

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robert heule

7:57 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

@Bob Wylie, Be careful of Hurricane Issac

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Melissa Baxter

8:06 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

One thing I don't think is communicated to parents or students enough is that any drug charge removes a student's ability to obtain federal aid (including student loans) for college, at least for a period of time. Disagreeing with what is illegal doesn't give you the right to disregard the law.

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robert heule

8:19 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

All victimless crimes or civil forfeitures should be repealed. If you don't hurt another person with your actions it is none of the government's business, whether federal, state or local. If a person confronts a"moral dilemma", before acting, he or she should consult a clergy person or a secular counselor or his or her own conscience.

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Ed Holladay

8:51 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

No, I would not turn my child in. Well, maybe if it kept happening and I was at my wits end...
There would be very serious consequences though. I don't care what some say, it is a narcotic that is harmful. It has no place in this house.

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Danielle

10:08 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

The mother had every right to let the police search the car. If the parents are still paying for the car and the car insurance. Plus if the guy is still living at home then it's on the parents property then the mom has every right to do what she wants.

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Kristi

10:42 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Exactly - And I think that people are forgetting, it's illegal. Whether you 'enjoy' it, or whatever you feelings are about it, it's Illegal. Simple as that.

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Daniel S.

11:03 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Actually Kristi, it's not as simple as that. There are ZERO logical reasons for it to be ILLEGAL and ALCOHOL to be LEGAL. Now that is Simple. I would think the citizens of the USA would be tired of being delivered manure from the leaders of this country by now . . . . guess more people like that country smell 24 hrs a day than I thought.

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Daniel S.

11:07 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

PS - It's Illegal to Speed, blow red lights, cheat on your taxes; there are lots of things people do regularly that are illegal and the reason . . . . they don't seem the harm in it, they feel they deserve the tax break, etc., etc. . . . .

Chris davis

10:24 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Lol i see i talk aboutthe pill issue and my post gets deleted waukesha shoild worry aboutthat instead of ruining teenagers records entire teams ofhigh school kids sniff pills but i forgot weed is worse in my opinon all u r a joke even whoever deletes the posts smh at u people how many kids 25 under gotta diebefore u see weed isnt anything but a dried plant all ur pills arent anywhere as safe as the herb its a weed u pluck,dry,and smoke how unsafe lol alot safer then the xanax and percocets u old people take

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Burton Robertson

10:27 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I wouldn't call the first time... I feel confident that I could handle this situation, although if my child is using drugs, I would have to reevaluate that too. Anyways I'd give him one chance and tell him next time it's the cops . (Period ! )

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Kristi

10:50 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

A lot of these comments are very sad - Posting that you do drugs consistently doesn't make you 'cool' in anyway, nor should you be 'bragging' about it, and apparently makes you forget to spell complete words.
It is completely up to the parents. Somethings are just life lessons, but if your child is not listening or getting the message, then I believe you have to take further action.

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Steven

11:18 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

This pains me to say, but I would let them search my childs vehicle. If they are doing wrong, they need to pay the consequences. That is the only way people learn. Now, that being said, I am a CONSERVATIVE BUT, I believe in a minimalistic govt. What a person does, as long as it doesnt affect anyone else, should be allowed. However, if their choice affects others, which would include drug tests for work, or smoking it around minors, or smoking it and driving, then they should be made to pay SERIOUS consequences. Personally I say, let them smoke it, and let crack heads do crack. Eventually its going to kill them. Its called natural selection. Let them kill themselves. When I say serious consequences, I mean, jail, revocation of driving PRIVILEDGES, no medical coverage required by the insurance companies and the right of a doctor to refust to treat them without an advanced payment.

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robert heule

12:22 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

@Steven Have a nice time in Tampa this week.

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Steven

12:30 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Nope. If I went to any, it would be a libertarian convention. The republicans have their problems and the democrats have even more. Its called turning us communist....

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Denise Konkol

5:40 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Here's an update to the original story that spawned this poll, with a clarification on the boy's age at the time of the arrest and the ownership of the car. Read it and tell us if this has changed anyone's opinion. http://muskego.patch.com/articles/drugs-charges-follow-man-caught-outside-underage-party

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fred

11:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

i dont think smoking pot is a problem im a college student have a job and it doesnt affect my school work or my work there are more dangerous drugs out there that people should be worried about aspirin is perfectly legal but if u take to many itll kill u.

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