I found the second executive order infiltrating HIPAA to get your medical records disturbing.

@Nuitari.....It is HIPA (Health Information Protection Act), not HIPPA.

"If you are on any anti anxiety or depression meds your guns are as good as gone."

That's good news. IF you are depressed - you need to alter your diet and lifestyle, it's likely meds are not necessary - so take care of yourself if you want to own guns. Still need meds = NO GUNS. Reasonable.

"How are Obama's radical brown hordes and their willing race traitors going to disarm white America if they don't know who owns the guns? Well finding those white owned guns may have got easier today."

It's stuff like the above that causes me to believe that you are either some sort of FBI agent OR mentally ill. PLEASE - don't own guns.

Mr., Ruble

It's the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA)

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/

@Random Blog Commenter...In fact we are all three wrong. It is HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

Lyle, I was right. One, You misquoted me, and two, you left the A for Act off.

I'll let it go this time.

Maybe the "A" is silent.

I thought the two S's were?

Now we can debate the proper spelling for Hippo...
(hippopotamus)
wait that might be spelled inkorectley

Mr. Ruble,

If I am wrong then the gov't website that I cut and pasted the name from is wrong.

one third of gun owners are on anti anxiety pills of some sort for different reasons, so that'll go over like a fart in church dumbasses.

It's actually HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

What he signed today was actually $4.5 billion in new spending. Not $500 million

Ummm, Angel posted them 10 minutes before you asked....you have found them by now, right?

Obummer can sign papers all day, but withought passing congress, he might as well make paper airplanes. And how many times has congress passed these executive orders? Never.

Right, you made your point ...now again in this thread, but how can any of these things hurt? Whether it's based on politics or not, if these prevent one crazy, unstable person from possessing a gun and harming someone, it's worth it.

@Satori - do we now ban assault gasoline - used in Molotov cocktails?

Liberals plan violence: Here, alleged Madison Bomber Kvon Smith plans to RIOT if a liberal rally doesn't get it's way.

http://racine.craigslist.org/pol/3550895175.html

We need an executive order to make placing gasoline in glass containers a felony. Then the crazy people will not kill anyone for fear of incarceration.

Can you find Obama's Resource Officers?

http://racine.craigslist.org/pol/3551230957.html

Keep fear alive and call gun violence an epidemic while it actually is in a steady decline.

"At the theatre in Colorado 70 people were shot within minutes." Funny how when no one is shooting back you have fee reign of the situation. And how easily you can reload a magazine no matter it's capacity.

What sucks is when someone is shooting back at you.

Steve Ebbie- Sorry Steve, but this is not about hunting alone. This, specifically under the 2nd Amendment, is the right to bear arms against a tyranical government. If the government can carry 30 or more, than so can I period. As for your 34% rate. I think 34% is statisticly way better than 0%.

Brian Dey,

Sorry Mr. Brian Dey, but my government also has tanks, armored personell carriers, destroyers, an army, navy, special forces, ...

By your logic, I should be able to aquire any and all of those assests to counter the very government under which I choose to live under???

Are we that afraid that "they" are coming for us???

It is just that "logic" that is sinking the arguement for "responsible" gun owners.

IMHO

If the bad guy has a 25 round mag, I want a 30. This is about guns, not tanks. Stay on topic.

FYI you can own a tank and a fighter jet and all sorts of cool stuff if you have the cash.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0R3uLTnzs60

Suckers. The only people who are benefiting are the gun and ammo makers and dealers.

What's amusing are the guys who are going to take on the US Military, who will crush these Rambos like a bug. Funnier still is these gun nuts voting for the politicians who are making this military even larger.

Keith:

Why has the US military been having so much difficulty 'crushing' the insurgent 'Rambos' in Iraq and Afghanistan? If it is truly so easy, why are we still losing soldiers?

Sorry Mr. Ebbie, but I did not write the 2nd Amendment. Like it or not, that is the Constitutional argument. We have already accepted a ban or conditional use for automatic weapons. Now because someting looks like an assault weapon, it is an assault weapon. You claim to be a hunter. There is absolutely no diference between an AR-15 and any other .223 rifle. None. A pistol grip doesn't make the .223 any deadlier, nor does a retractable stock. None, zip, nada.

I find it acceptable to have any armament that can be carried by our police or soldiers.

If they can carry a tank, then the citizentry should beable to as well. What part of "shall not infringe" do you not understand? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/infringed

Cow makes a good point. It is hard to kill the enemy when he blends in with the crowd. Guerilla warfare: a sniper fires and then hides. Leaving the BIG guns no target.
Keith still thinks they line up in rows and fire, then wait to be fired on. Shoulder to shoulder combat is almost as old as poor Keith.

The tin foil hat, sky is falling community grows larger every day.

Satori: Keith is too cheap to use tin foil for a hat.
Maybe he can recycle old whiskey bottles to make a hat.

I see it as if our government moves in the direction Obama would like to take it: The military would be on the side of the constitution, and the citizens. The military isn't made up of communist marxist socialist liberal democrats.

In the mean time a so called hunter, Steve Ebbie, was schooled by this ►There is absolutely no difference between an AR-15 and any other .223 rifle. None. A pistol grip doesn't make the .223 any deadlier, nor does a retractable stock. None, zip, nada.◄

Blue fisters are terrorists.

Never take the first showcase.

Duh! Because no GOP would pose for a pic with Tammy Baldwin!

Mike - as Gearhead points out - you obviously didn't look at the link - or follow the link to Media Trackers - the information on his activities and affiliations is quite clear.

Here is the link to Kvon's video, which is still up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSdXfSX-e8M&feature=player_embedded

Human Rights and Prosperity Era!

Published on Dec 27, 2012

Song was made in 2009.
For my team TSM, and our Human rights and prosperity era which supports Justice For Palestine, Boycott Palermos, workers rights, Asian Student Union, Black Student Union, All Black Everything, Latino Student Union, Desi Student Association, LGBT Communities, and women rights!! We go the hardest, that means there are no tougher! Let's go! No Justice No peace! -Kv Smiff

Surprised the authorities haven't pulled it yet.

Mike - Kvon also stated he was up to start a riot - even if it would mean his arrest, at a rally for "Wisconsin Wave" - I also have this documented on my screenshots seen on a link above.

Kvon was in contact with Ben Manski of "Wisconsin Wave" - as seen in screen shot.

"Wisconsin Wave" was to have a "RALLY TO REJECT THIS PUPPET LEGISLATURE!"

Here is the site - they are Democrats. http://wisconsinwave.org/

Link to my screen shots: http://racine.craigslist.org/pol/3550895175.html

I have more screenshots with more people who I don't recognize and may or may not be of significance. See the video before it is pulled - nothing special - just people.

Richard: nice link. Back in the day we called them radicals. Now they are known as occupiers. Armstrong should be proud.

For being a Constitutional Professor, have any of us heard from any of his "former students" on this? Or are they as fictitious as his composit girlfriend?

No argument here. Best be careful with future doctor's visits and you are already screwed with existing records for any prescribed med's your doctor entered into your record. Yep, it is all coming down to the wire.

I did a little research Greg and you are right. Gun violence is declinging.

But your dates are wrong. We were at a high of 10,225 in 2006 and now ONLY have 8,583 killed by guns in the United States of America in the year 2011.

We are on the right track. Don't change a thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/guns.cfm

I was looking at the over all gun crime trends.

The percentage of overall deaths that were the result of falling off things like rocks and ladders was 1 percent, or nearly three times the percentage of deaths that were gun-related: 26,631 versus 8,583.

Gun-related deaths represented only .34 percent of all deaths in America 2011.

I am curious, is the declining trend of gun shot death due to better first response treatment and medical intervention? How many shootings occur each year is a better measure, not deaths.

Bingo Lyle. From that socialist rag the Wall Street Journal -- thanks to medical intervention, gun deaths falling despite (sorry Steve) RISING GUN VIOLENCE -- http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324712504578131360684277812.html.

The bottom line. The hobby and paranoia of some are costing this country a ton of money. You know. That government money that drives some of you nuts. So people may eventually come to the question, can we afford conservatism?

We're on the right track? Right!!!!

Keith Schmitz,

Don't take my tongue in cheek "we are right on track, don't change a thing" as a statement of how I feel about common sense changes to make us all safer.

The 8,583 gun deaths in 2011 comes out to a little over 23 a day. Maybe that is acceptable to some who post on these blogs.

As I stated before, I see no reason why we can have someone who cannot fly commercially because they are on a no fly list, but can go to a gun show and purchase at will. I see no reason why anyone needs a 20, 30, 50, 100 or 200 round clips unless they are a professional in a tactical situation.

I have taken a variety of game and have never needed more than two shots. Once I harvested a nice Wisconsin whitetail doe with a single shot 44. My guns and ammo are locked up in different locations. We can be responsible gun owners.

I am haunted by the thought of those 20 first graders and their families.

LIKE.

Ultimately the key to reform is for a majority of Americans to regard irresponsible gun behavior and views as inappropriate.

It's very preventable, and why some people regard these deaths as acceptable as the "price of freedom" is nuts.

When you lefties actually start to enforce the laws you already haveon the books, then come talk to me. When you lefties actually incarcerate these animals, talk to me. We had an assasination attempt on a sitting President and you lefties let him out 25 hours per week unguarded. It's real nice to pose with children an take photo-ops, but its better to enforce the laws we already have, then create new ones we will never enforce.

Lyle, Good question, that is also why I have stated that issues like this need the correct analysis, rather than simple knee-jerk emotional reaction. I would have to question why the first responder effect has not been offset by the liberal demons, assault weapons, hi-cap mags and bullets only intended to kill(?).

Mr Dey,

I had assumed that you were an adult who could openly discuss a topic with which we may have differeing opinions/solutioins.

I think laws should be enforced.
I believe in paying time for doing crime and would like criminals held longer if warrented.
No clue about the ungarded criminal.

@White Power Nation 14/88...Grow up! Your Jim Crow attitudes are out dated and rejected by adults.

Yes, the facts do speak for themselves, if you really look at them. Places and times with the strongest gun control laws have often been places and times with high murder rates. Washington, DC, is a classic example, but just one among many. When it comes to the rate of gun ownership, that is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks. For the country as a whole, handgun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down.

Neither guns nor gun control was not the reason for the difference in murder rates. PEOPLE WERE THE DIFFERENCE.

Think Please- % of Homicides by firearm. U.S. ranks 24th, even though we rank #1 in civilian gun ownership. Lichtenstein 100%, Puerto Rico 94.8%, Sierra Leone 87.7%, St. Kitts 85%, Guatemala 84%, Honduras 83.4%, Columbia 81.1%, Venezuela 79.5%, Jamaica 75.6%, SWITZERLAND 72.2%, West Bank/Gaza 72.4%, Zimbabwe 65.6%, as well as Albania, the Bahamas, Brazil, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Eygypt, Guyana, Macedonia, Maldives, Trinidat & Tobago. They all have a higher percentage of firearm murders than the United States.

Facts speak for themselves. If ypou want to change the 2nd Amendment, then it must go through the Amendment process. Good luck getting 75% of the states to agree to ban firearms. Also, the President/Mein Fuhrer doesn't even get a vote.

We are less safe in America because of societal issues, not because of the gun lobby. We have a culture that embraces violence--until we address that, we will continue to be less safe.

Think Please, it is certainly your right as a US citizen to be a victim. Please don't make us all victims. Oh, and if you get a chance, go to Cabela's and sign up for CC carry and buy an American made gun, protect your family, be an adult.

Think Please- We are less safe because we let criminals go free. We are less safe because no liberal wants to take n the drug gangs. We are less safe because liberals think we can reform criminals. We are less safe because we do not enforce te laws we have. Please, think please...think!

Think Please, BS......like I said, you have the right to be a victim. Please enjoy this right and stop forcing others to be a victim like you.

Think Please:

After Washington DC implemented their gun ban, gun murders INCREASED by more than 150%. Similar results when Chicago had their gun ban. Gun violence increased by 40% there after their ban went into effect. The facts speak for themselves.

Yeah, what a shame... innocent people die everyday. So - what's YOUR justification for abortion.

End the NONSENSE! Guns are an inanimate object - a tool - they are only dangerous in the hands of a criminal. What tool isn't dangerous in the hands of a criminal?

How about a FIST! One punch homicide -

"One Punch Homicide is a documentary that will reduce violence, crime, and murders, possibly more than anything in our time. It's about people who killed and were killed with one punch, and only one punch, and their loved ones. It will reduce violence against everyone - the elderly, disabled, lgbt, children, women, and men.

Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg of King County, which includes Seattle, Washington, says King County has four to six one punch homicides every year. If King County's one punch homicide rate is average for the nation, which is impossible to tell because no one in the U.S., including the FBI, keeps statistics on the subject, then the U.S. has between 500 and 1,000 one punch homicides every year. Although this isn't a huge number, it has other implications. Most single punches don't result in a death, but for every death by one punch, how many other people experience serious injuries, including brain damage, because of one punch - 10, 20, 50, 100, or more?"

http://onepunchhomicide.com/

Obama uses Drones to murder innocents world-wyde - Daily- where is your concern?

"December 14, 2012, New York – Today, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) issued the following statement in response to U.S. officials’ motion to dismiss a lawsuit challenging the targeted killing of three U.S. citizens, including a 16-year-old boy, in Yemen last year:

The essence of the government’s argument is that it has the authority to kill Americans not only in secret, but also without ever having to justify its actions under the Constitution in any courtroom. To claim, as the administration has today, that the courts have no role at all to play in assessing whether the government's targeted killings of Americans are lawful—even after the fact—simply cannot be squared with the Due Process Clause.

The president himself has acknowledged that the targeted killing program must be subject to more meaningful checks, but there is little evidence of that recognition in the brief filed by the government today. If the court accepts the government's position, it is not only the current president but every future president who will wield the power to kill any American he or she deems to present a threat to national security, without ever having to explain that action to a judge. The Constitution requires more.

Lyle and Keith are two "Progressive" Wolves in Sheeps clothing who only want to disarm their neighbors so they can TAKE by decree what isn't theirs to take.

PERIOD.

A Fear of guns is irrational.

Fear People - especially incendiary radicals like Lyle and Keith.

What were you saying Think? I was busy cleaning my FN 57.

Jason - are you ON or OFF your meds?

Idiot, learn the history of the United States. You must be a public school teacher or another loser on the dole.

Jason, I believe there were many more convicts/criminals exiled to the North American British colonies than there were Puritans...

What ever happened to your buy back program?

Jason:

Interesting that you think that pistols are OK to have--they are easily concealed. An assault rifle is much more difficult to hide when one is looking to cause harm.

If people see a guy carrying a rifle through a school parking lot, they'll tend to call the police. If a guy is carrying a pistol through a school parking lot, nobody will even notice...

70% or more of gun homicides are caused by handguns... Yet you are ok with them Pantywaist Patzfahl? Assault rifles are only in the bottom 3-4% of deaths by gunfire. Besides assault rifles are fun to shoot and I like mine.
I don't strapped to my groin (as you always need to stoop to insults) or because it makes me feel more manly than you,(insult incoming) I can do that wearing ballet slippers and a thong.
I like them because they irritate lefties.

Jason, be a real man and back up your compulsory buy-back program with some statistics.

I don't see the benefit of suddenly making hundreds of thousands if not millions of law-abiding citizens into criminals over night when any banning and confiscation plan extorted by Mr. Patzfahl would not impact a single person bent on committing a violent crime. Furthermore, the public resources required to implement these plans and to pursue newly criminalized law-abiding citizens would be a detriment to catching actual criminals.

Did you read the articles, Kieth...or just riff off the headlines. 100 million plus registered firearms in the US with 5 accidental discharges over 3 gun shows (with those stats, I'll take my chances being at a gun show, as opposed to driving on the road).

There are idiots in any crowd...you're proof positive of this axiom.