@ Citizen - we agree. Obama and someone left of Obama - it's exactly what this country needs. Obama isn't the most left in the world. Any help we can get to pull him more, we'll gladly take.

Thanks for agreeing.

Great point GearHead. Those who are on assistance are available at any time to answer a poll. Those who work are not able to take those calls during normal business hours. So it would seem typical to get more lefties answering polls, while the working people are working 2 jobs and are not home.
Sadly if the lefties who are feeding off the Government teet actually show up at the polls to vote- we will be stuck with more of the same big government assistance programs. Thus requiring real workers to work 3 jobs to make ends meet, while the scum gets rewarded by the left.

They polled 11% more democrats. Taking that into consideration a 9 point lead is a loss for Baldwin in November.

Nice Math. 34-26 = 11?

51-40=11

See picture uploaded, which was there prior to your post. See attachment below, which was there prior to your post. Then report back.

From your link:
"F1
Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent?
N %
Republican 180 26
Democrat 240 34
Independent 266 38
Other/No preference (v) 12 2
Don't know (v) 4 1
Refused (v) 3 0"

Way to ignore the data right below that on the pdf, which is posted on this article prior to your post.

Gearhead, do you just recopy this same comment every week the Marquette polls come out? Looks like you only have four more weeks to keep fooling yourself.

Oh Bren, that is such a load of garbage. If you could have it your way there would be left wing nut jobs in every crack of our govt.

Chadwick, that would a swing to opposite side of the political pendulum. Different focus, same problem. Most of us live 1-3 points right or left of center. Why? Because it's reasonable.

Sorry if you don't agree.

Bren, why is it that ever lib I meet has to deny what they are? Your a left winger, plain and simple, there is no moderation in your comments or sense of balance. You are on one side of the aisle. I on the other hand do jump ship on certain drug laws and prison sentences for drug dealers but that is mostly because I don't want to pay to lock them up because of the financial and social cost to our society. I don't agree with anything Obama stands for what it comes to the economy, but that's probably because I am successful in business and realize he has never had to run a business or anything that matter outside of govt. He is a fool when it comes to economics and the only people who don't realize that are either looking for a handout or living off the DailyKooks.

Bren, 1-3 points left or right of center? That is NOT baldwin, not by a longshot. She is an extremist in every sense of the word both fiscally and socially.

Chadwick, I don't share all of my views here, just on certain topics, so it's not possible for you to extrapolate my precise political stripe. I self-identify as independent, and that's enough for me.

I don't agree with your views about Obama's handling of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, partly because I've studied the economic tides over the past decades and partly because I also monitor Japan's post-earthquake/economic crisis activity.

I don't see how our penal system is going to change while privatization of prisons and bright-star thinking like "three strikes" continues. That's something voters need to work on.

oak creek, I was describing the majority of people, not Tammy Baldwin. She's a liberal. I'll vote for her because I don't care for Tommy's "consulting" in Washington. Well funded special interests and their highly paid lobbyists and "consultants" are blights to our system of government and representation For the People and By the People.

you're voting for her because she is a liberal. period.

@unaborted scorates - out of touch from reality

See? Name calling isn't changing things, is it?

Proof?

Taoist, the GOP's class warfare? Umm, that is the first time I have heard that. It's pretty funny coming from the party that can only win by making people jealous of those more successful and telling them they will fix it.

@Taoist -

Didn't Obama attend a $15M fundraiser hosted by the hedonistic George Clooney and friends fairly recently?

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/george-clooney-skinny-dipping-is-a-tradition-at-my-lake-como-house-2011610

So, you have a problem with Romney associating with people that have nude swimming parties, but not our actual President, Mr. Obama???

Strange double-standard you seem to employ for no other reason than extreme partisan bias!

HACK!!!

@Taoist -

BTW - That's not what Romney said at all.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like."

All of this is fact. Currently 47% of household are receiving some form of government assistance outside SS, Medicare, and VA benefits - that includes SSI, SSDI, food stamps, welfare, special tax credits for being poor (some of which are fully refundable), child support services, etc. Romney wants to reduce that because 1) it's financially unsustainable, and 2) it's not fair to those who are working and paying for that assistance when a large majority of those people are fully capable to taking care of themselves!

If those people want to continue to receive their assistance, then they'll probably be voting for Obama and not Romney. That doesn't mean that Romney doesn't care about these people - he'd rather see them supporting themselves by working and earning their own keep. And that's why he wants to improve the economy - so there are jobs for more people to work at.

And 47% pay no income taxes, so his message of lowering income taxes doesn't work at convincing those people to vote for him, does it?

So obviously, Romney is going to focus his campaign at targeting those people in the middle, just as he said in response to the question about his CAMPAIGN.

You and the liberal media idiots are acting like Romney's statement is in regards to his policy positions, which they clearly are not.

Do you honestly believe that the Obama campaign doesn't have strategy sessions about which demographic of voters they want to target in their campaign?

Remember the recent Obama for african americans push by his campaign? Those ads specifically targeted black people and ignored white people, hispanics, asians, etc. So where was the media howling about how Obama is racist and ignoring the white electorate with his campaign? Instead, the MSDNC idiots were all raving about how wonderful the President's campaign was for reaching out to the black community! The BIAS is so blaring obvious!!!

If the only way that liberals can win is by spinning the truth and lying to people, well, that's not saying a whole lot about your side, is it?

We saw a lot of Obama lies already - closing Gitmo, halfing the deficit, shovel ready jobs, unemployment below 8%, ending both wars on day 1, no mandate in his health care plan, no new taxes on the middle class, etc.

Why don't you guys ever hold Obama accountable for his LIES??? Hoffa just doesn't get the liberal mentality!

@ Hoffa
Where is your proof of the exact campaign promises that you refer to. For 1, my recollection was that he intended to end the war in Iraq in 16 months. No president can end decade long wars in 1 day. get real. Intelligent people know once a President is in power there are many factors involved in what is actually accomplished. Once again you place the label of a lie on possibly unfulfilled campaign promises. By being mistaken with your quotes, does that make you a liar? I won't sink to your level and call you that

@John Feia -

1) Hoffa has previously provided links supporting each of the asserted Obama promises enumerated above.

2) The Democrats, media, and left wing are constantly howling about Walker's campaign promises, and yet, Hoffa has not seen a single comment from you defending Walker the way in which you're now defending Obama, despite the situations being identical in nature.

3) Closing Gitmo is well within Obama's sole discretion as commander in chief of the armed services. And yet, Gitmo is still open, is it not? He's had almost four years to close it, has taken no affirmative steps to do so, and yet you still consider that to be merely an unfulfilled campaign promise? COME ON!!! It was a LIE.

4) As to ending the wars on day 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlXfs1K04g. First thing that he will do is bring home the troops, you can take that to the bank. But that's not what happened. He did Obamacare, stimulus, auto bailouts, and a whole slew of other things before he ended Iraq. And we're still waiting for Afghanistan to end. If Hoffa would have placed a bet in Vegas based on Obama's promise, he would have lost all his money. Again, as commander in chief, if Obama really wanted to end the wars on day 1, he could have issued the order on day 1 and no one could have done anything to stop it. But he didn't, did he? Yeah, that was definitely a LIE!

5) The same can be said of every other promise he has made and broken.

Socrates:
No sense in arguing with Nothought Boy. I did once, and when presented facts that proved I was right, his response was "ohh good for you you can look up stuff on the internet".

A sore loser, an unintelligent free loader, and a pathetic person overall. He behaves like a teenager when he loses. I guess he always acts like that because he is losing in life.

@Taoist -

Hoffa explained it all to you. If you can't comprehend it, well, that's not Hoffa's fault!

And how can you support the racist in chief, President Obama? He's the one who launched the whole direct targeted campaign at African Americans. Does that mean that he doesn't care about whites, asians, latinos, middle easterners, etc? Using your logic, that's exactly what Obama is conveying with his direct targeted campaign towards african americans.

Who would have thunk that our Taoist would be supporting a racist for President? I guess you learn something new everyday!

@oak creek - an insult like two days later? Really?

Your argument (like last week) was stemmed from dated information. But whatever, I couldn't back it up, so I was grudging, I admit (just glad collective barganing was re instated). If you want to call that losing sorely, fine. That was the least hurtful insult.

I'm just glad to see the rest of your post so mean and ignorant. If sounding like an idiot is gold, you'd live in Ft. Knox.

You worry about these comments but continue to ignore the 'Paul Ryan's home rape kit' on the other blog article? Where do you draw the line between what is offensive and what is not, Denise?

I wish I could have pressed the "Flag as inappropriate" button on the misogynist "forcible rape" meme altogether, but alas. The "home rape kit" concept would never been written down if not for Ryan et als' bizarre position that the crime of rape can be qualified. "Talk" about offensive to victims of rape and everyone who has to listen to the discourse.

I would prefer you write unbiased news Denise, which I don't think you are capable of. Your slant is entirely on the democratic side.

Bren:

What exactly did Ryan state about rape? I know that the left has been critical of him making a statement along the lines of 'rape can result in conception'.

...and the idea that rape can result in conception is hardly a 'bizarre' concept.

@Denise -

Hoffa would prefer that you 'report' the news as opposed to "writing the news." ;-p

Lovely my question was removed to Denise. Does that mean she is hiding behind her support for a free home rape kit using her super moderating powers?

C'mon Bren - more excuses? Blame it on Ryan? What a crock. Always looking to blame someone or something else. Someone (Jason) made a decision to be crudely creative and you make excuses for it? Oh that's right, the left is tolerant.

Denise your "news" writing is slanted, as is your use of the deletion button. Hack writer, hope its not your full time job.

Denise - I will beat this record as long as it doesn't crack in the middle and break. And it hasn't yet. Do you support a "free home rape kit"?

Cow, Ryan/Rand has co-sponsored legislation introducing the sick concept of "forcible rape." Other than statutory rape, are there other types? No. It's misogynistic and sick, because this type of twisted thinking has no place in polite/public discourse.

For me, it's the banality of the way it appears that is so unbelievably repellent and offensive--typed up all nice and normal, just another mode of conception. Never mind the black eyes, broken jaws, ribs, fingers, arms, internal bleeding, etc., and complete lack of voluntary participation that distinguish this method, eh? Sickening.

I'm voting for her because I respect her more than Tommy the Consultant, and because we need a calm, intelligent foil to Ron "Our Last Shred of Freedom" Johnson, who lovingly and charmingly named his new company PACUR in honor of his wonderful brother-in-law Pat Curler. Wait, he moved to Wisconsin two years later than the company started--eh?

Anyway. One ignorant Tea/GOP in the U.S. Senate is too much. Two would be intolerable.

Bren:

What exactly did this legislation consist of that introduced the concept of "forcible rape"? They aren't seeking to make rape legal or even an acceptable practice...

You're voting for her because she is a far left liberal. Stop lying to yourself.

High percentage of union members or one that lives in the household vs the percentage that the sate is made up of.

"all liberals, progressives, Democrats and interested parties"

Are these your peeps Lyle?

Just use "lefties". Saves time and wear and tear on your fingers. You guys all know who you are.

Very intelligent...

Nah Lyle is a centrist correct? No political affiliation? LMFAO, sounds like he should be a writer as well.

Sage counsel as always, Mr. Ruble. Thank you.

@Herbert

You do not remember well.

Democrats win polls, not elections.

A real journalist would report the sampling discrepancy of this poll, a partisan hack would dare not dig into the details and simply do as she is told by the DNC.

@unaborted socrates -

The Patch has been consistent with how they report publicly released polls ever since the local sites were launched. They have never went into reporting on the details of how the individual polls were conducted, no matter what candidate the polls favored. Instead, they present reactionary comments from both sides of the aisle as well as official comments from the polling outlet presenting the poll.

Also, Denise did not write this article - Heather Asiyanbi did. And both are pretty good about being fair and balanced in their reporting. Whenever they really do slip up, we're always pretty quick to call them on it, as Denise mentioned below.

So do us all a favor, take a chill pill, and stick to the merits of your factual argument as opposed to running around screaming media bias where there really isn't any.

Thanks, Hoffa!

I agree. Sometimes you surprise me Hoffa. Not usually but sometimes. :)

That is the GOP way. If you can't get people to vote for you on merit, keep them from voting...

No worry, Hoff. Now we can ALL vote.

http://www.hq-law.com/news/1/4678882815582900551/All/voter-id-case-update-judge-flanagan.html

VOTER ID CASE UPDATE: JUDGE FLANAGAN DENIES ATTORNEY GENERAL’S MOTION TO STAY PERMANENT INJUNCTION

September 17, 2012

On September 14, 2012 Judge Flanagan issued an Order denying Attorney General Van Hollen’s Motion for a Stay of the Permanent Injunction issued on July 17. While Judge Flanagan’s denial of the request for a stay does not impair or otherwise affect the Attorney General’s Motion to Bypass the Court of Appeals and obtain a Stay from the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the language in Judge Flanagan’s Order provides clear caution for the Supreme Court with respect to the disruptive impact a stay of the injunction would now have on the electoral process for the November elections, stating that "the inescapable reality is that the need for stability, predictability and adequate preparation for the electoral process strongly weighs against this court granting a stay and thus changing the voting process at this late hour." Judge Flanagan again cogently explained why he was not bound by the Supreme Court decision upholding the Indiana photo ID law in Crawford, and also refuted Van Hollen’s claim=.....

@Feia -

Hoffa was being sarcastic, in case you couldn't pick up on that! Although, Hoffa probably wouldn't mind if you skipped going to the polls ;-p

Seriously, all Hoffa wants is a fair election. And before you go into the whole 'voter fraud doesn't exist because there have been investigations and hardly any prosecutions have resulted' line of crap, I'll remind you of the recent report issued by the Racine County Sheriff's Department, wherein investigating officers admitted that our current elections system makes investigating voter fraud virtually impossible.

@ morninmist -

Hoffa didn't expect anything less from the Dane County Circuit Court, as you guys on the left clearly own that venue! That's nothing that Hoffa would personally brag about though!

Don't worry, there's still plenty of time for the Supreme Court to issue a stay of the permanent injunction. Sumi was the first to be overturned. It's only a matter of time before Flanagan, Colas, and the rest of the Dane County activist judges are also overturned by our high court.

Then we'll see who has the last laugh!

@ Hoffa
Apparently you don't recognize sarcasm yourself. Although I feel that an attempt for voter suppression is rampant nation wide, i was just making fun of your comment.

Hoffa's gotta be good for something, right? ;-)

@ Hoffa
To change the subject a little, I'm sorry for your loss. My prayers are out to you and your family.

@John Feia -

Thank you kindly, Hoffa appreciates that, however, there's no loss just yet - only a debilitating medical condition.

You're a good man Charlie Brown and Hoffa respects you ;-)

See? We both have a little bi-partisanship in us. :)

Steve, thanks for posting that picture of the facts. Too bad you just hurt the feelings of all the false believers. My picture is nice too by the way. Do the Tammy Dance! (Pridefest)

I find it hard to beleive that a state that overwhelming elected Scott Walker as governor (twice) will elect Baldwin or Obama. The polls might be skewed toward the democrats as I have found myself not willing to answer a pollsters calls. I'm sure other conservatives do as I do.

Folks in WI are wising up.

........
braasch0074

8:21 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I find it hard to beleive that a state that overwhelming elected Scott Walker as governor (twice) will elect Baldwin or Obama.

Unless a comment was deleted, there is nothing even remotely close to a hate crime above. Whatever was put in your batch of hootch should be banned.

" Do the Tammy Dance! (Pridefest)"

Sorry, that comment is homophobic.

How is my comment homophobic? True I dislike the genetic/mental abnormality known as gay, but my reference was from the picture I posted above of her dancing at Pridefest. Dumb liberals.

@CHAR
I agree.

@Nuitari
Look again at your comment. "the genetic/mental abnormality known as gay" That is disgusting and another example of a homophobic comment.

@John Feia -

It was a rushed and bad bill.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/06/military-jeff-miller-criticizes-veterans-jobs-corps-plan-060412w/

Even the Democratic-controlled Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee wasn't all that crazy about it.

As the article makes clear, vets would rather receive educational re-training opportunities rather than being pandered to with a government handout.

Once the $1B had been spent, then what? It's just like Obama's previously promised shovel ready jobs. When the money runs out, so do the jobs. Then what are vets to do? If the money was spent on education though, they'd have new skills upon which they could fall back on - imagine that!

Not to mention that vets already receive preferential treatment in regards to federal employment.

Basically, the Veterans Job Corp bill was little more than an insult to our veterans!

Now that the bad idea was shot down, maybe we can actually allocate that $1B to actually helping our vets over the remainder of their lifetimes, as opposed to the short term which was clearly done by the Obama administration to try to buy military votes in the upcoming election!

This should make anyone with half a brain sick that our President would sink to such lows just to try and garner some votes in his upcoming re-election bid. Shame on you Obama!!!

"The organization representing the largest number of post-9/11 veterans, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, expressed outrage at the outcome, saying the program would have created thousands of jobs."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/vet-jobs-bill-fails-in-senate-caught-in-hill-battle/2012/09/19/9d35a104-0292-11e2-91e7-2962c74e7738_story.html?wprss=rss_politics

What does vets already receiving preferential treatment for federal jobs have to do with this?

I am a veteran with a 40% disability status. i received benefits that recently allowed me to finish college at an undisclosed age. I personally know that there are re-training opportunities already available to Veterans. This bill would have put those in need in jobs that could have supported their needs immediately. Don't talk to me about what Veteran benefits can do or what Veterans want because I know first hand.

In case you are wondering what allowed me to finish school, look up the vocational rehabilitation program

By receiving these benefits I guess that makes me one of the "Moochers" your candidate talks about. I'm sorry but this topic really ticks me off...

@John Feia -

Hoffa's father is a Vietnam combat vet who is 100% disabled according to the VA because of his agent orange induced cancer. My father actually had six fellow vets die in his arms during his tours of duty. How many men do you know still alive that personally know six names on the Wall in DC?

When Hoffa asked him about the bill, he called it disgraceful. It basically creates jobs just for the sake of creating jobs using taxpayer money - it's just a political pander to veterans.

Hoffa is sorry that you and other partisan vets can't see this, but government jobs like this aren't sustainable in the long term. The funding mechanism in the bill is a one time injection of $1B - that's it. There's no auto renewal, there's no permanent incorporation into the VA budget, etc. Once the money is gone, so are the jobs - and the vets are once again out of work and our government is $1B deeper in the hole that our children, whom the vets have fought for, will have to pay back.

Hoffa's father called this insulting to the vets and spirit and principles upon which they fought for. Hoffa stands with his father on this one!

Say what you feel you need to say but I will reference my first hand knowledge and experience as to what this bill would have meant to Vets and what it would have accomplished. Even if what you claim about the bill (your claims not post 2001 Vets see re posted quote below) are true, what are the GOPs plans yo help these Vets? Obstructing anything Obama proposes that could help the economy will not help our Veterans. that is what is happening here.

"The organization representing the largest number of post-9/11 veterans, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, expressed outrage at the outcome, saying the program would have created thousands of jobs."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/vet-jobs-bill-fails-in-senate-caught-in-hill-battle/2012/09/19/9d35a104-0292-11e2-91e7-2962c74e7738_story.html?wprss=rss_politics

Half a dozen of one, a little more than a baker's dozen of the other. :)

Does Paul Ryan care about being the VP or his plan B of continuing to be a Rep? Lets hope for a double zero...

twist words much?

Perrybacker -The 47% includes many Republican voters. And anything illegal/unethical re foodstamps should be reported immediately...your cred is very low anyway, and this sounds like one of those made up stories from Steve. If not, give us the details.

Go with that, fool.

um, you forget to mention the failures Carter, Ford, and Obama...
16 trillion eh? I know...print more money!!!!

PS...say hi to Ginger...

Vote for Tammy then. She likes tax increases.

I herd the leaves are changing and that Mitt Romney is rich. The leaves are changing because he is rich.

Feudalocracy: the system of society where the most priveliged hoard more and more money, control and power to themselves with no regard to their fellow countrymen/women leaving the rest in an increasing state of servitute and serfdom.

NoThoughtTroy,

Get off of your oversized rear end and try to accumulate wealth through hard work instead of trying to steal it like your Dear Leader, Baracka Hussein Obama, hmm hmmm hmmm.

It's official, HE

I will now consider every insult you give me a compliment. You so crazy that if it makes you agry, it must be a rational thought

Maybe this poll will suit you better??
I love it.

Black Chuck Todd ‏@BlackChuckTodd

Obama Pulling Away in Gallup. Approval Rating Crosses Magical 51 Percent. Delicious! http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx?utm_source=add_this&utm_medium=addthis.com&utm_campaign=sharing#.UF9E-J4DibQ.twitter #tcot #p2

Meanwhile, smart Wisconsinites are turning to Obama's health plan--.