Fitzgerald Now Top Choice of GOP Insiders, Thompson Still Best to Beat Baldwin
Among Wisconsin's influential conservatives, Jeff Fitzgerald now has plurality support over Tommy Thompson, Eric Hovde and Mark Neumann, but they still see Thompson as their best bet for defeating Democratic candidate Tammy Baldwin in November.
In the primary season, a lot can change in a month. A recent Patch survey of influential Wisconsin conservatives proved just that.
A plurality of Wisconsin Republican insiders now favor Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald for their party's U.S. Senate nominee, according to the unscientific survey. Fitzgerald has generally polled behind former Gov. Tommy Thompson and businessmen Mark Neumann and Eric Hovde throughout the race.
In fact, a similar Patch survey in mid-July of the same political insiders showed Hovde as the favorite with Thompson close behind and Fitzgerald trailing at 10 percent, a spread that mirrored most representative polling data.
Thursday's survey, which asked for whom the 53 respondents would vote if the election were held that day, put Fitzgerald at the front with 32 percent, followed by Thompson and Hovde with 28 and 23, respectively.
The race, marked by attack ads in recent months, has generally carried a negative tone between Thompson, Hovde and Neumann — and Patch respondents have noticed. Now, some GOP insiders are lauding Fitzgerald for staying out of the negative fray.
One respondent said the frontrunners "have ruined their credibility with me by insulting each other and muddying up the waters with all this mud slinging.
"I think that when I got upset over this I started to pay more attention to Jeff Fitzgerald," that insider said. "I now feel the most honest and best candidate is Fitzgerald and he most typlifies what I want to send to Washington as my senator."
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Another said that "Speaker Fitzgerald has been the only candidate who hasn't had to, or decided to, go negative or defend his previous actions. That's admirable."
And Fitzgerald's television ad was markedly different from the rest, as Fitzgerald focused on himself and not attacking his opponents, one insider said.
"The negative attacks from Hovde, Neumann and Thompson have disgusted me to the point where I've decide(d) to cast my vote for Jeff Fitzgerald, the only candidate who has maintained his principles," that insider said. "His television ad is a big reason why I chose to vote for him - it focuses on himself and his proven leadership rather than attacking his fellow conservatives."
Insiders: Thompson can beat Baldwin
Despite the support for Fitzgerald and his clean campaign, many influencers believe the polls have read the tea leaves properly and only Thompson can beat Democratic candidate Rep. Tammy Baldwin in the November general election.
"People need to believe the polls — Tommy is the only candidate that can beat Tammy," one said simply.
An overwhelming 64 percent of respondents on Thursday are of the same opinion, and this figure that hasn't changed much since the mid-July survey.
"This time, we need a pro, one who has the experience and the know-how that Tommy Thompson possesses," another respondent said.
But a few insiders, particularly Fitzgerald supporters, put their faith in money's ability to win a campaign. Those few predict the GOP will rally around any nominee in the end.
"At first, I was concerned about Fitzgerald being able to win on the state level," one said. "However, I am convinced that whoever wins the primary will receive a large amount of financial support statewide and nationally to defeat the radical leftist Baldwin."
For Patch's complete coverage of the U.S. Senate race so far, click here.
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About Red Wisconsin
Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican activists, party leaders and elected officials in Wisconsin. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to Saturday's questions.
Patch will be conducting Red Wisconsin and Blue Wisconsin surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and liberals on the ground in the state. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Mark Maley at mark.maley@patch.com.
Participants in Patch's Red Wisconsin Survey are:
Jim Bender, president of School Choice Wisconsin, former chief of staff for Assembly Republican Leader Jeff Fitzgerald; Bill Berdan, first vice chairman, Wauwatosa Republicans; Keith Best, public relations chairman for Waukesha County Republicans; Bob Bradley, party activist; Charles Brey, field director for state Assembly candidate Tracy Herron; Tracy Brodd, Republican campaign worker; Paul Bucher, former Waukesha County district attorney and candidate for Wisconsin attorney general; Roy Catron, Tea Party activist; Andrew Cegielski, former Milwaukee County Board candidate; Sara Conrad, party activist; Bill Cosh, spokesman for the state Department of Natural Resources; Michael Crowley, Waukesha County supervisor; Jake Curtis, former state Assembly candidate; Lou D'Abbraccio, board member, Racine County Republican Party; Brian Dey, Racine County Tea Party member; Fred Dooley, conservative blogger; Steven Duckhorn, former Republican candidate for Milwaukee County sheriff; Bill Folk, chairman of Racine County Republican Party;Elisabeth Friesen, Republican activist; Jesse Garza, chairman, St. Croix County Republican Party; Mark Green, senior director of the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, former U.S. ambassador to Tanzania and former congressman; Chris Haines, longtime campaign volunteer and former GOP campaign manager; Deb Hawley Jordahl, conservative strategist and consultant; John Hiller, co-chair of Scott Walker's transition team as governor; Sandra Hollander, member of Mitt Romney's “Juntos con Romney” leadership team; Ethan Hollenberger, former chairman of the College Republicans at Marquette University and staff member on several legislative campaigns; Mark Honadel, state reprsentative, 21st District; Marguerite Ingold, party activist; Valerie Johnson, former GOP fundraiser and staffer for various campaigns; Thomas J. Keeley, political consultant; Scott Kelly, communications director for former state Sen. Van Wanggaard; Cindy Kilkenny, conservative blogger; Rik Kluessendorf, attorney and former state Assembly candidate; Dan Knodl, state representative, 24th District; Tif Koehler, campaign volunteer and civic leader; Johnny Koremenos, regional field director for Tommy Thompson campaign; Gordon Lang, member of North Shore Republicans; Chris Larsen, trustee in Village of Sturtevant Trustee; Noelle Lorraine, field coordinator for Americans for Prosperity; John P. Macy, first vice chairman of Waukesha County Republican Party; Kathleen Madden, Waukesha County Clerk of Circuit Court; Ginny Marschman, party activist; Jessica McBride, conservative columnist; Bill McCoshen political consultant and; former cabinet secretary for Gov. Tommy Thompson; Joe Medina, party activist; Randy Melchert, field director for Mark Neumann's campaign; Gerald Mellone, Brookfield alderman; Ryan Morgan, conservative blogger; Dean Munday, conservative blogger; Mark Neumann, U.S. Senate candidate and former congressman; Kelly O'Brien, founder of Shorewood Citizens for Responsible Government; Eric Wm. Olsen, conservative activist; Nick Oliver, state Assembly candidate, 22nd District; Victoria Ostry, treasurer of the Wisconsin Federation of Republican Women.; Rick Owen, Brookfield alderman; Monnine Parnitzke, party activist; Steve Ponto, mayor of Brookfield; Don Pridemore, state representative, 99th District; Paris Procopis, grassroots activist; Jim Pugh, director of public relations and issue management for Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce; Denise Rate, Tea Party member; Bob Reddin, Brookfield alderman and executive director, Jobs First Coalition; Pam Reeves, treasurer, Waukesha County Republicans; Joe Rice, former county supervisor and member of North Shore Republicans Executive Committee; Nate Ristow, candidate for 13th District State Assembly; Brandon Rosner, Wisconsin Republican consultant; Bill Savage, aide to state Rep. Don Pridemore and officer of Menomonee Falls Taxpayers Association; Jim Schaefer, Muskego-Norway School Board president; Josh Schimek, conservative blogger; JB Schmidt, conservative blogger; Christian Schneider, senior fellow at Wisconsin Policy Research Institute and former policy analyst for Wisconsin State Legislature; Ashley Schultz, state director of the Recall Action Fund; Nick Schweitzer, Libertarian pundit and blogger; Tim Schwister, former State Assembly candidate; Dan Sebring, vice chairman, Milwaukee County Republicans and candidate for 4th Congressional District; Cathy Stepp, Wisconsin Natural Resources secretary and former state senator; Jeff Stone, state representative, 82nd District; Jonathan Strasburg, attorney; Dave Swarthout, board member, 1st Congressional District Republicans; Charles Sykes, conservative talk show host for WTMJ Radio; Steve Taylor, Milwaukee County supervisor; Jenny Toftness, executive director of the Republican Assembly Campaign Committee; Greg Torres, Jefferson County supervisor; Jim Villa, former chief of staff to County Executive Scott Walker and Alberta Darling; current CEO of Commercial Association of REALTORS® Wisconsin; Robin Vos, state representative; 63rd District; Dan Vrakas, Waukesha County Executive; Yash Wadhwa, former State Assembly candidate; Jeff Wagner, conservative talk show host, WTMJ Radio; Tom Weatherston, candidate for 62nd Assembly District and Village of Caledonia trustee; Steve Welcenbach, head of the Menomonee Falls Taxpayers Association and Tea Party activist; Todd Welch, Wisconsin state coordinator at Campaign for Liberty; James Wigderson, conservative blogger and columnist for Waukesha Freeman; Eddie Willing, conservative columnist in Racine County and executive director of FoundersIntent.org; Chris Wright, Sturtevant village trustee and former candidate for State Assembly; Phil Ziegler, CEO of InPro Inc. and party activist.
James R Hoffa
1:14 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Hoffa's really starting to come around to Fitzgerald as well! Hoffa always believed that Fitzgerald was the best candidate, but it was hard to consider him when he was constantly so far behind in the polls.
The three stooges really mucked up this race - and Thompson started it!
All the candidates are solid and would provide the state with excellent representation - especially over the alternative, Baldwin.
Hoffa's officially changing his endorsement in this race from Hovde to Fitzgerald!
Vote Fitzgerald on Tuesday!
Vote ABB, anybody but Barack and anybody but Baldwin in November!
Carl Engelking
1:19 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
I think it's notable that there is so much indecision still - with less than 24 hours before the election.
GearHead
1:22 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
They are all studs, Carl. Such a great problem to have!
CowDung
1:27 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
...as opposed to the indecision I have about the 10th district race. The choices are 'NOT the whiteman's bitch', Sandy Pasch (recall candidate against Darling), and Millie Coby (endorsed by Coggs).
I don't think that any of them are good enough to get my vote. I guess I'll just have to vote in the Republican primary and let the chips fall where they may in district 10...
James R Hoffa
1:59 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
@CowDung -
You forgot to include 'carpetbagger' in the parenthetical next to Pasch's name.
Your plight in the 10th makes Hoffa so thankful that he's represented by Robin Vos in the State Assembly!
CowDung
2:12 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Doesn't she actually have to move into the district before she can properly be labeled as a 'carpetbagger'?
James R Hoffa
2:34 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
@CowDung -
No. She carpetbagged her name onto the ballot in the district - that's enough to sufficiently qualify as a carpetbagger.
CowDung
2:39 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Which begs the question--how was she able to get on the ballot without being able to prove residency in the district? The GAB should have rejected her application to be put on the ballot in the district 10 race...
Bob McBride
2:41 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
CD, Keith stated he'll be putting together a rather long winded explanation as to why Sandy's not a carpetbagger and how a vote for her is a vote against the exploitation of non-Shorewood district 10 residents by the evil Republicans. Stay tuned, and keep your waders handy.
James R Hoffa
2:55 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
@McBride -
Hoffa can hardly wait for that literary gem to get posted!
Steve Ebbie
3:39 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Why do you refer to yourself in the thrid person?
Sad times when the best option is anyone but...
Walker
7:34 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
"Hoffa always believed that Fitzgerald was the best candidate,"
but yet Hoffa was touting Hovde! Hovde! Hovde! The day of the election Hoffa says Hovde is a stooge?
Bob McBride
7:37 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Well, JRH, he said he was gonna have it done before the election. Perhaps he had a moment of clarity amidst the fog of partisan hatred that plagues him and realized it wasn't in his and Sandy's best interest for him to be suggesting interference by outsiders to an audience that might view them in the same light.
Jay Sykes
8:25 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Aw shucks Bob, that Schmitz epistle and the comment posts that follow was to be the highlight of my day.
Bob McBride
8:44 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
I was kinda hoping too, Jay.
Ah well...the day is young....maybe after an invigorating trip to the polls today, a couple of gallons of Alterra's finest and some supportive social media interaction he'll be feeling his oats and have at it.
Bucky
3:38 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
3 Stooges and Hoffa all losers. Don't ever go to the track with Hoffa , can't pick a winner.
Craig
3:56 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Apparently neither can your wife!
Greg
2:55 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
So many people state that they are voting for Thompson "because he can beat Baldwin". Ron Johnson beat Feingold, any of these four can beat Baldwin.
James R Hoffa
3:25 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Excellent point Greg - message delivers over name!
Bucky
7:37 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
@Craig ... Apparently neither can your husband.
Old Lady from Husty
3:33 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Greg, I agree. The primary winner - I'm betting on Fitzgerald- will beat Tammy Baldwin. This person will get a boost from the Romney/Ryan ticket and the Republican Party nationally because Wisconsin is in play and will go completely RED!
AWD
5:09 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
AWD voted for Fitz via absentee. Fitz needs to be rewarded for standing up to the parasitic Fleeing Fourteen. Fitz is a great leader, helping Scott Walker implement his bold and innovative plans for Wisconsin. Fitz can beat Tammy and her LGBT army.
Greg
8:46 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Fitz had better be ready to get his hands dirty, if he does win.
Walker
3:41 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Fitz dead last; not even on the radar.
Randolph Brandt
11:07 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Good, go for Fitz. Certainly wouldn't want the Republicans to nominate Tommy, the only one with a chance of beating Tammy in the fall.
Winghunter
8:47 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
"Tommy Thompson still holds on the glory days of school reform, but has, out of office and in the Bush Administration, been a proponent of big government, Obamacare, and fiscal insanity."
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/08/14/election-day-in-wisconsin-go-vote-for-mark-neumann/
Randolph Brandt
11:07 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
... while you're at it, strongly support Ryan as vp, similarly delivering Wisconsin to Obama.
Bren
11:11 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
Sorry, I just took a robo-survey and gave 100% support to Mark Neumann. Of course I always support candidates who gift me a robo-survey. ; )
Bianca White
1:01 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
We have all lost sight of what is important here: WHO CAN WIN? WHO CAN BEAT TAMMY BALDWIN? Thompson is the only one who has a fighting chance of beating Baldwin. Think about it, people! Don't be so naive to think that any of the four can beat Baldwin. She's just been waiting in the wings, planning her attack, and has raised a lot of money (just under 3 million so far, I believe). She will have statewide AND national support. Do you think the Liberals want to lose this precious seat? They already lost one to Ron Johnson in 2010 (when the Republican rumble was at its strongest after 2 years of no hope and no change). This is a different time and they have the momentum of the presidential election behind them. She's been in this business a heck of a long time, she knows what she's doing, and you better believe that she has surrounded herself with a strong campaign.
If Thompson wins the primary, he will be the frontrunner - in other words, this race will lean to Republicans, and will certainly lend to a more positive outcome for the presidential race, too.
Bucky
7:39 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Tommy is the best drunk that you can get for your money.
Bianca White
1:06 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
If any of the other three are elected, then the election is a toss up and could very likely end up with Baldwin winning. We should not underestimate Tammy Baldwin. We can't risk losing the Senate race in November. We need to unite and support the person who has the greatest chance of beating Tammy Baldwin. We need to support Tommy!
Baldwin will rip Hovde to pieces - doesn't matter how much more of his money that he throws at this campaign. The guy hasn't even lived here for 24 years, has a ridiculously poor voting record, has taken TARP money AND farm subsidies, and he's just plain arrogant. Baldwin will eat Hovde for lunch. Fitz, unfortunately, just doesn't have the experience and extensive level of proven leadership as Thompson. Fitz is a good guy who was a great wing man for Walker, but just doesn't quite have what it takes to win a statewide election - did you notice how lackluster his campaign was? But, I think that was honestly due to lack of funds. You can't put out alot of literature, yard signs and commercials if you don't have funds to support you (which I honestly think is the reason why he stayed out of the fray). And, Neumann...he sure has lost a lot of races; he just doesn't have what it takes to win, it seems, and he burned so many bridges by being so negative against our state's hero, Gov. Walker, during the 2010 race. Ouch...that one left a scar.
Bianca White
1:08 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
And speaking of Governor Walker...he has all but endorsed Tommy with recent statements he has made. And, Paul Ryan's shout out to Tommy at the Waukesha Romney/Ryan rally? Hello: basically an endorsement. I didn't hear him mention any other GOP Senate candidates, did you? So, two of our greatest Career Politicians giving props to their mentor, Tommy Thompson? Three great reformers? Yeah...need I say anymore???
I'm going to make my vote count. I'm voting for Tommy Thompson.
Walker
7:27 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
"But a few insiders, particularly Fitzgerald supporters, put their faith in money's ability to win a campaign. Those few predict the GOP will rally around any nominee in the end."
Puts it in a nut shell. Money, money, money!!!
Steve ®
9:02 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
I'm pretty sure a non carpet munching monkey could beat Baldwin. I'm not worried who wins today, we as a state have chosen wisely in the past few elections. Since today only serious informed voters will go to the polls, Steve® knows we will all make the right choice.
Winghunter
8:47 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Mark Neumann is backed by Mark Levin, Jim Demint, Club for Growth, Rand Paul and the Tea Party Express.
You want to take our country back from big government RINOs and Marx wannabes??
Vote Fro Neumann!
Greg
10:41 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Fitzgerald Now Top Choice of GOP Insiders
OOps
Walker
4:04 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
"Among Wisconsin's influential conservatives" Guess they're not as influential as the Patch seems to think they are.
Greg
4:28 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
In the end, each of them only get one vote. It's a burden us conservatives must bear.