"at the behest of the most powerful and the expense of the least powerful"
So you call the Wisconsin tax payer "the most powerful"?
And you call the public employee unions "the least powerful"?
Oh and by the way, there were politicians from northern states who took a stand against the bigotry of segregation too. But you seem to see things with one blind eye.

Well said, Bert. Extremism is not courage, especially when you're backed by the rich and powerful. Walker has torn apart our great state. His radical far-right agenda has resulted in a poisonous neighbor-against-neighbor atmosphere. That is why he's being recalled and will hopefully lose June 5.

Greg, I consider the workers affected by the $1B+ in cuts - which includes the 18,000 public jobs lost, cuts in compensation to all public workers, and the hundreds of millions in contracts that would have gone to private sector companies - to be the least powerful. I consider the limited class of individual who can afford $1M+ contributions to a particular candidate to be the most powerful.

Regarding the northern state politicians who supported desegregation - it was far less courageous a stand in the north where more people supported that idea. In the south, supporting civil rights was a more courageous position to take.

Bert, this is from another post but you could reply here too.
<Bert keeps claiming 18,000 public sector jobs were eliminated by Walker. (He is like Bren with the ALEC thing, no brains, no proof, just yap-yap-yap). And Bert states it as FACT.
Well it's time to put-up or shut-up, I call BS. Bert let's have some proof. No reply will be accepted as proof that you are dead wrong and that you lie.
...>

Greg - turn off Fox every now and then and you won't need to look like an idiot by challenging people on widely known facts. The 18,000 public sector jobs lost in the last 12 months comes from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This is the same report that notes that Wisconsin is the ONLY state that had a statistically significant job LOSS over that period. The ONLY state. This is what happens when your state is run by an idiot, who was elected by uninformed morons.

Wisconsin happens to be the only state that has been holding a series of recall elections for the past year or so...

Dung, the "uncertainty" argument is about as idiotic as Walker's economic policies. The argument goes like this. Wisconsin is currently being run by right wing extremists, so businesses should be flocking here. However, there is a threat that the state will revert to having a Democratic governor, and divided legislature. Therefore, the state's policies would shift to the left. On the very chance of such a shift happening, businesses won't come here.

Problem - Illinois is clearly to the left of even a Barrett administration, and is gaining jobs. Same for Minnesota. Massachusetts, that liberal of all liberal states, is kicking our ass. There's no uncertainty there - it is and always will be a "far left" state!

Businesses aren't investing here because there's not enough DEMAND. We've eliminated $1BN of government spending from an already depressed economy. That includes 18,000 fewer government jobs, hundreds of millions in local and state projects that aren't happening, and across-the-board compensation cuts to thousands. Add that to the cuts that were already happening in the private sector, and you find yourself in a death spiral. THAT is why we're last in jobs, not because of any "uncertainty".

Greg
Your "interpretation" of Bert's memo are typical TeaGOP distortion and lies. And smart folks in WI will see through the distortions come June 5.

It is a new world--Doyle is gone and Walker will soon be.
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Greg

2:23 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012

Bert's definition of courage - Roll over to the public sector unions and allow WEA Trust to charge 20% over market rate for health insurance. Just raise taxes and fees, then blindy hand this money to anyone with a hand out, with no regard for the future of the state.
We had that with Doyle and we don't want it again.

My "interpretation" is just that, MINE. Don't tell me where my thoughts come from. The TeaGOP (whatever that is) to my knowlege, never commented on Bert's memo.
It is a new world--Doyle is gone, but I do not want Barrett or Falk to return us to that hell.

20% over market rate. What are you smoking Greg?

By "rock star", I assume you're referring to what's between the ears of those three...

We'll see how that works out for Mr. Zimmerman, AWD. Let's hope you don't blow an innocent person away with your augmented manhood.

Walker inherited an economy that was adding jobs, and has turned it in to the only state in the nation with appreciable job losses over the last 12 months.

Funny how endless recall elections can have that effect on the economy...

Dung, the "uncertainty" argument is about as idiotic as Walker's economic policies. The argument goes like this. Wisconsin is currently being run by right wing extremists, so businesses should be flocking here. However, there is a threat that the state will revert to having a Democratic governor, and divided legislature. Therefore, the state's policies would shift to the left. On the very chance of such a shift happening, businesses won't come here.

Problem - Illinois is clearly to the left of even a Barrett administration, and is gaining jobs. Same for Minnesota. Massachusetts, that liberal of all liberal states, is kicking our ass. There's no uncertainty there - it is and always will be a "far left" state!

Businesses aren't investing here because there's not enough DEMAND. We've eliminated $1BN of government spending from an already depressed economy. That includes 18,000 fewer government jobs, hundreds of millions in local and state projects that aren't happening, and across-the-board compensation cuts to thousands. Add that to the cuts that were already happening in the private sector, and you find yourself in a death spiral. THAT is why we're last in jobs, not because of any "uncertainty".

Having either the right or the left in control isn't the issue. Businesses can deal with the policies of whatever party is currently in power. It's the constant election cycle that is causing the uncertainties...

Once again, I ask--where did that $1 billion go? Please explain to me how Walker made it leave the economy and disappear.

Dung, it's an absurd argument. Even the people making the argument don't believe it. We have elections in this country all the time. If elections were bad for business, we'd be in trouble. If anything, the recalls have brought money in to the state, spent on advertising!
The $1B, as right-wingers like to crow about, is reduced spending by the government. It came out of local school budgets, local municipal budgets, and state projects. It's the reason for the public 18,000 jobs lost. Those cuts reduced the economic activity in the state, which further depressed the already-slow economy. THAT is why we have been unable to keep up with the rest of the country. It's got nothing to do with the threat of "elections", those horrible job-killing things... (If I'm not mistaken, the entire country will have elections this year, not just us...)

@Bert: What do you do for a living? The rumer mill says your work for a school system. How shocking.

Bert:

Aside from this past year in Wisconsin actually don't have elections 'all the time'. We normally have them every 2-6 years.

Removing $1 billion from government spending means that the private sector has $1 billion more dollars to spend. Private sector spending is what drives the economy...

But not all fools carry guns. I'll bet Mary doesn't.

Mary, thanks for the support. We will make sure you are one of those we don't defend, if push comes to shove. Anyone that I know carrying is a true patriot, a firearms safety zealot, and way more informed on their constitutional rights than you are. You better believe we are proud to be able to defend ourselves and those we love.

And before Walker only criminals carried concealed weapons. No wonder your pissed.

We have had open carry for ever. At least now we can hide them from your sensitive eyes.

If Mary had a man he would have no gun!
This explains her problem.
Send her a case of D batteries and she won't make it to the polls.
:-P

Mary, is it an army of "fools", or is it an army of "tools?"

Perhaps these economic geniuses could explain how two unfunded wars and a series of taxcuts have been good for the country?

Perhaps they can explain the benefits brought about by Grover Norquist and his strangehold on the TEAPublican Congress?

Perhaps they can explain Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan's sudden denunciation of his patron saint Ayn Rand's absurd rants when he was challenged by the Jesuits of Georgetown.

Or perhaps they can explain that the person who came up with the idea of vouchers to kill Medicare now says it won't work.

But really, most of them are unable to deal with the cognitive dissonance that this causes. What a pity.

I stand corrected. MrsPeel apparently likes the higher horsepower models that run on gasoline. I didn't know they had modernized toys for the loons.
Apparently it has affected your brain because this thread is about Walker and you have attacked everyone but him.
Based on your screen name of Mrs. Peel, one would assume you are married....to a twerp with no balls. This is why you against concealed carry, he likely can't stand your idiotic ranting either.

Gasoline pollutes. I assume MrsFeel prefers her toys to run on hope and change.

Baraboo is it's own Country now? Jeepers Mourningmisty, they are smaller than Greece.

Apparently, now we know, circus people don't vote Republican.

Now it all comes together! Misty is a clown.

Darn. It never did close. Is this bad?

http://www.wiscnews.com/news/article_6f28bdea-9646-11e1-b345-0019bb2963f4.html

Walker's own words "I have nothing to negotiate" will help to bring him down!

Kelly Steele ‏ @steelekelly

Scott Walker redux: "Never again will any US politician have courage to act if my extreme agenda is rejected in recall" --GET OVER YOURSELF.